Muel Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 I never have new ideas design wise, everything I've done is a mixture of other things I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webber Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 My websites finally back up and running! Is very blank at the moment as i am having to start from scratch again having lost all my posts and pages etc www.d2ddesign.org.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Looking good dude. Sooo, what to do when a clients logo is the worst you've ever seen, but they don't want to change it because it's part of the "image"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronz Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 …Sooo, what to do when a clients logo is the worst you've ever seen, but they don't want to change it because it's part of the "image"? Begin mocking up a new, better one and say 'For £xxx I can finish this and we can rebrand…' I did that with a client, made £200 and got to base their new site around it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Sounds like a plan. I'll talk to them about it today, got a meeting at 12, and then I shall do a few mock-ups for the next time I go in. Cheers pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronz Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 No worries dude, lemme know how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 (edited) Will do mate, that's off the list for now though, got to get the back end done first! The php framework is taking a lot longer than I originally hoped it would. :/ ----- Came across this site earlier: mystorium-sites . co . uk (Added the spaces as it belongs to a guy who I once knew, would just rather he didn't find I'd posted this up). I'm refusing to give an opinion. EDIT: He started designing/developing about a year after I did, so he's been at it around 2 years. Edited June 19, 2010 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 (edited) Will do mate, that's off the list for now though, got to get the back end done first! The php framework is taking a lot longer than I originally hoped it would. :/ ----- Came across this site earlier: mystorium-sites . co . uk (Added the spaces as it belongs to a guy who I once knew, would just rather he didn't find I'd posted this up). I'm refusing to give an opinion. EDIT: He started designing/developing about a year after I did, so he's been at it around 2 years. I'll say what you're thinking then: "What a complete bag of shit!" EDIT: £100 for a site? I just charged £300 for a basic one, which has taken ages - £300 was under selling myself massively. I'd be very surprised if anyone is willing to splash out £100 for that anyway... Edited June 19, 2010 by MadManMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 (edited) You do have to undersell yourself Mike at times, I've been trying to pick up volunteer work recently. Basically just making a list of clients who aren't willing to pay, who I'll chase up when the work dries up. Edited June 19, 2010 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 (edited) You do have to undersell yourself Mike at times, I've been trying to pick up volunteer work recently. Basically just making a list of clients who aren't willing to pay, who I'll chase up when the work dries up. I see what you're saying, but he should offer free work until his portfolio has something in it. I did a few sites for myself / friends then went for it freelance. Advertising your services for £100 on what is, lets face it, an awful website isn't a good image to portray to potential clients. PS, a "work-in-progress" of said £300 website. Only the Contact Me / Business card & Special Offer links work at the moment... EDIT: URL link didn't work... www.mikeduffieldphotography.co.uk/home.html Edited June 19, 2010 by MadManMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webber Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 "What a complete bag of shit!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 That's no way to talk about Mike's work right in front of him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 (edited) EDIT: That site was done to her spec, so other than the logo / fonts I had no control over the design - pretty happy with it anyway! Edited June 19, 2010 by MadManMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Looks good to me Mike, couple of things I'd change about the markup personally, like for the quotes at the side I'd utilise the <blockquote> tag, and I believe you can store custom fonts on the server so they download and display without the need for images, so you could still navigate it with a screen reader or in a text only browser (some older handhelds use them). Just picky stuff really though, other than that it's all good! P.S: Forgot how much of a milf your missus is..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Looks good to me Mike, couple of things I'd change about the markup personally, like for the quotes at the side I'd utilise the <blockquote> tag, and I believe you can store custom fonts on the server so they download and display without the need for images, so you could still navigate it with a screen reader or in a text only browser (some older handhelds use them). Just picky stuff really though, other than that it's all good! P.S: Forgot how much of a milf your missus is..... Hehe, yeah that's Hayley, not Helen, just using that image for the "live demo" site - I'm yet to take a pic of Helen. (Who is also a MILF, I must add...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webber Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 That's no way to talk about Mike's work right in front of him! I wasn't saying anything about Mike, i was just agreeing with his statement about the guy you posted up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronz Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Will do mate, that's off the list for now though, got to get the back end done first! The php framework is taking a lot longer than I originally hoped it would. :/ Is it an MVC jobbie? I wouldn't mind taking a look at that actually, if you wouldn't mind me looking…? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 (edited) Is it an MVC jobbie? I wouldn't mind taking a look at that actually, if you wouldn't mind me looking…? Nah I'm writing it all from scratch, it's actually all very simple stuff. I wouldn't mind apart from it's for a client and it's unfinished, but when I get back to working on my new site I'll be re-using some of the same stuff, and I'd be happy for you to have a look at that. There's nothing special on this one anyway, it's just for changing dates for sports courses. The most interesting script I've written for it is for uploading images... Edited June 20, 2010 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronz Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Nah I'm writing it all from scratch, it's actually all very simple stuff. I wouldn't mind apart from it's for a client and it's unfinished, but when I get back to working on my new site I'll be re-using some of the same stuff, and I'd be happy for you to have a look at that. There's nothing special on this one anyway, it's just for changing dates for sports courses. The most interesting script I've written for it is for uploading images... I meant are you writing your own MVC framework…? Dan who you met at my work spent weeks writing a huge OO MVC framework that kinda mindf*cks me haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Ahhh, thought you were asking if I was using a pre-built MVC. Nope, it's all procedural, I've got to keep it as light on the server as possible because they're refusing to move hosts, and they pay for the domain, but the hosting is free. As a result having numerous require()s slows the load times down significantly, it made more sense just to do it procedural. I'm not hot enough on OO stuff yet to do it on a client's site, and what they wanted to achieve is so simple, yet needs to be done ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Man, i don't get the industry at all to be honest. All this OO MVC and various other coding methods, rubbish. Just get stuff done. Client's don't pay for pretty code, they pay for a solution that works how they expect, in the real world you don't get the luxury of writing code how you want, you have to write it to do a job, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronz Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 I disagree. We inherited one client whose developers had that 'as long as it works' attitude. As soon as they wanted the site to amend/expand the shite code-base couldn't handle it. We did some hefty rebuilding and it cost them almost as much as the original site cost them just because the code wasn't maintainable, efficient or scalable. I used to semi-agree with you but to this day that's one of the best real-life and measurable examples of bad, just-make-it-work code being utter wank. Wasted several months of salaried dev time just because the code-base was shoddy. Good code is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radfax Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 I've finished my 3rd year studying architecture, still looking for work in an actual practice bit of my work if anyone fancies a gander! I am guessing that was on a BA? What uni was you at? I have just finished my 3D design course and am starting my BA in architecture in September Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenpoll_41 Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Yeah that was the BA course, went to lincoln uni, was pretty ace definately a good course architecture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Quinn Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) One for the business card heads. Edited June 28, 2010 by Max Quinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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