Toby Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 (edited) so is it not worth the money if you can gap further and hop higher?? I would doubt any noticeable difference in size in what you do just from a tyre it's to do with technique in my opinion, seems more like your trying to justify spending alot on a tyre:P I really hope your not making your judgment just from hoping up a wall because you seem to have made your opinion about this tyre seriously quick. Is it stable? like having to hop around on a odd camberd object having to get to a point to then launch off from, how does it cope with compression on the edge of an object compared with the original try-all. seriously though... best tyre ive used (eagle claw, CC, echo) So you never used an original try all yet say to people that it has more bounce than the original as you said in an earlier reply. And riding your mates bike doesn't count, a real conclusion on an product needs to be done over time on variety of different situations I might be completely wrong, it may be the best tyre in the world but a decision on an product such as this needs to be done on more than one ride as it seems to be the case here, and on all different types of terrain. Again i might be wrong but i feel alot of people on here make assumptions about a product without properly testing a product or have the experience of putting something through its paces. Maybe everyone thinks i'm being a complete p r i c k, but i'm just stating it how i see it. Toby Edited May 17, 2010 by Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 I would doubt any noticeable difference in size in what you do just from a tyre it's to do with technique in my opinion, seems more like your trying to justify spending alot on a tyre Agreed I do think this is a long overdue product for stocks. If you wanted a properly grippy tyre, the lightest option has always been a maxxis 42a and they have been around for 6 or more years! I think anything less grippy than a 42a is a serious disadvantage, way more so than the penalty of a few hundred grams. Even for street riding, the extra grip on rails and benches makes me a much more confident and capable rider. I've switched to using a big betty on the rear after years of using a maxxis hansventure, losing nearly 400 grams in the process. I've been riding for over 13 years, mainly concentrating on power moves, although these haven't improved much over the last 4-5 years. If anything is going to improve the bike I should notice, so has a lighter tyre made me a better rider? Well it certainly makes the bike feel easier to ride, the wheel definitely accelerates quicker and you get a faster response to your pedal kicks. The tyre is also much more springy, although this hasn't improved my sidehops one bit. My gaps do feel a little better, but i'm talking about adding an inch or so to 8 foot gaps so hardly anything dramatic. I think the only real advantage would be at the end of a long competition when you are really tired. But in terms of how far I can hop when fresh the difference is negligible. Just look at Damon Watson, the worlds biggest power moves on a fairly heavy bike by most riders standards. Especially his rear wheel and tyre, but it doesn't stop him. Practice, technique, and power win over bike set-up any day! Basically I think £59 is a rediculous amount of money for one tyre, when the benefits will be negligible for 95% of the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) So you never used an original try all yet say to people that it has more bounce than the original as you said in an earlier reply. forgot to say a white sticky aswell it probably is a fast judgement on it, as ive only rode it for a few hours, but i have noticed the difference straight away like if you change youre brake pads (from maggie blacks to heatsinks) youd notice the difference nearly straight away wouldnt you?? Edited May 18, 2010 by stunt man t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 like if you change youre brake pads (from maggie blacks to heatsinks) youd notice the difference nearly straight away wouldnt you?? That's a monumental difference though. I guess it depends also on how much you're trying to feel the difference, maybe if you just slap it on and ride then you'd notice it less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) That's a monumental difference though. I guess it depends also on how much you're trying to feel the difference, maybe if you just slap it on and ride then you'd notice it less. i was just trying to let people no maybe someone else who has it will back me up ill bring the bike to work tomorrow so you can see Edited May 18, 2010 by stunt man t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Adam seemed to get on pretty well with his. Saving the better part of 20% of the weight of your back tyre is pretty much definitely going to be noticeable, especially in that the sidewalls of the tyre are now different to what they were like before. I can't see how you wouldn't notice it, really, in that your back tyre and how it feels is crucial to almost every 'pure' trials move out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Adam seemed to get on pretty well with his. Saving the better part of 20% of the weight of your back tyre is pretty much definitely going to be noticeable, especially in that the sidewalls of the tyre are now different to what they were like before. I can't see how you wouldn't notice it, really, in that your back tyre and how it feels is crucial to almost every 'pure' trials move out there. very well said mate so its worth the money then whahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Yeah, really liked mine. Never tried a 'normal' Stiky, but have used Crawlers and Eagle Claws before and prefer the Stiky Lite to them both. I run pretty hard pressure anyway as I don't like the tyre to be all floppy and squirmy, so it suits me really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 very well said mate so its worth the money then whahahaha It might be good but why should we be paying £49 for one when the manufacture of it is probably the same or maybe cheaper than the normal try-all its stupid. Its not worth £49, i will probably buy one but i don't think its fair how much they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 It might be good but why should we be paying £49 for one when the manufacture of it is probably the same or maybe cheaper than the normal try-all its stupid. Its not worth £49, i will probably buy one but i don't think its fair how much they are. I can guarantee you it costs more to produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 I can guarantee you it costs more to produce. I can't see why it would but you obviously know more than me on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafal Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) I can't see why it would but you obviously know more than me on that. fat is easier than thin with same geometry. More precise to do. Continentals are not much cheapier and they have worse rubber than try alls for sure. Koxx compound is ultimate for trials. I do agree it's overpriced but not that much Edited May 18, 2010 by Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 fat is easier than thin with same geometry. More precise to do. Continentals are not much cheapier and they have worse rubber than try alls for sure. Koxx compound is ultimate for trials. I do agree it's overpriced but not that much Which ones are you on about dude? The rubber queen yes, but the Kaiser and Rain king tyres are softer and longer lasting than the try-all tyres! Would be interesting to try one of these tyres, but for the money I am not sure whether I would.......... Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Rode mine for the first time yesterday and to tell you the truth...I had Eagle calw and Creepy crawler, and this Sticky lite is the best of them. I really did jump higher with it because I jumped on to the wall I could never jump on before. It's really really great.... THOUGH it is only 50 g lighter than my EAGLE CLAW with every other knob off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmusson Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Any body bought one for there unicycle yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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