tdubz Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Hello recently got a chris king from somebody on here got it sent away to tarty for a service and a hub shell swap went from 36h to 32h got it back yesterday found that it is missing engagement points, i have already burried my knee into the stem a couple of times what could be the problem just looking for some ideas before i give tarty a call in the morning do you think i have been sold a dud? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Griffiths Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Send it back to tarty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdubz Posted March 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 anybody else had similar problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Send it back to tarty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Have you replaced the rings etc? If you have, bed it all in properly, if not, send it back to tarty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdubz Posted March 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Have you replaced the rings etc? If you have, bed it all in properly, if not, send it back to tarty. nope none of the rings etc have been replaced, just sent to tarty for a service according to their website they check all the internals for wear etc when servicing, so i would imagine they would have let me know if there was somthing in need of replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 My mate Reece("Pogo" on here) did exactly the same thing. So he took it apart himself 'cause he was so fed up of it and serviced it, works fine now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 odd, I serviced the hub, it all looked pretty good inside, wasn't even that dirty when I cleaned it. I popped on a drop of light lube so it shouldn't be clogged up with that either. All the engagements sounded strong and it made the typical "I'm working well" deep buzz noise. How badly has it skipped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex-trials-boy Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Is it the gold hub shell if so the reason why it was so clean was because I gave it a good clean before I sold it to you and everything looked good and ok inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdubz Posted March 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 odd, I serviced the hub, it all looked pretty good inside, wasn't even that dirty when I cleaned it. I popped on a drop of light lube so it shouldn't be clogged up with that either. All the engagements sounded strong and it made the typical "I'm working well" deep buzz noise. How badly has it skipped? it is skipping on like hops it is not skipping on general riding just when i go to do any form of hop its not happening every hop, but its got to the stage where i am uneasy doing hops i really dont understand why it is poorly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Legend has it that a wheel that is tensioned incorrectly can cause a chris king hub to skip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintsauce Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 I don't mean this as an insult to your intelligence I'm just doing what Sherlock Holmes would suggest - "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" If you have just bought the hub then are you running your old chain on the old cog that came with the hub? (or a new chain with an old cog or and old chain with a new cog - you get my drift!) It could be this causing the chain to slip, resulting in a knee stem moment, and not actually a skip of the hub internals. Just one to rule out that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 it is not skipping on general riding just when i go to do any form of hop Are you preloading or just stamping the pedals? King's don't skip under pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 There's a big difference between the feel and sound of the hub skip and the chain skipping. Chris King skips make a bang with a buzzing overlaid, while there's no buzz from a chain skip. The more times it skips while you're riding the more the freewheel parts are likely to be damaged. I'd pull it apart and have a good look inside. It doesn't take that much contamination between the drive rings to stop the hub from engaging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey-uk Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 I had some old 6-7month old stretched as fook chain on and kept making it skip slightly... It was the chain skipping on the cog though and not the internals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Hello recently got a chris king from somebody on here got it sent away to tarty for a service and a hub shell swap went from 36h to 32h got it back yesterday found that it is missing engagement points, i have already burried my knee into the stem a couple of times what could be the problem just looking for some ideas before i give tarty a call in the morning do you think i have been sold a dud? thanks Yep i sent it off and it came back skipping like a school girl, did it myself and now it's sorted. Save a few quid and pull it apart yourself next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 wack it in an mtb and do some road miles on it, to bed it in properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 My mate Reece("Pogo" on here) did exactly the same thing. So he took it apart himself 'cause he was so fed up of it and serviced it, works fine now. Yep i sent it off and it came back skipping like a school girl, did it myself and now it's sorted. Save a few quid and pull it apart yourself next time. Could have saved yourself some time by "+1-ing" me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupintart Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 This kind of voodoo nonsense makes me stray away from king hubs. That and the constantly (as compared to other hubs) needed tightening of the cones. I'll give up minor lack of engagement (which is easily adjusted for after 1 pedal kick), for a hub that I don't have to worry about some voodoo magic and hoo-hah lube to keep it "working properly". i.e. get a Hope trials or an I9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Yep, that I9 hub certainly has an incredibly long and well-proven track record in the trials world... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupintart Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 (edited) Yep, that I9 hub certainly has an incredibly long and well-proven track record in the trials world... Doesn't matter. The I9 has a proven track record in all other disciplines here in the states as well as a company who has BLATANTLY said "if you can break it, we'll fix it". Not to mention the fact that they post data about thier hubs. I don't see Chris King saying or doing that. IIRC, they do not honor their hubs for trials use, or radial lacing, and void the warranty if they find other lubes being used. Kings are nice, and I used to own nothing but them (at one time I had 6 bikes, all of them had king hubs), until I realized there are less finicky hubs that are just as, if not MORE bombproof as far as the drivetrain/engagement goes, even in a trials application. Kings are good, don't get me wrong, but I'm not a fan of a maintenance or hubs that aren't consistent. Edited March 20, 2010 by rupintart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 This kind of voodoo nonsense makes me stray away from king hubs. That and the constantly (as compared to other hubs) needed tightening of the cones. I'll give up minor lack of engagement (which is easily adjusted for after 1 pedal kick), for a hub that I don't have to worry about some voodoo magic and hoo-hah lube to keep it "working properly". i.e. get a Hope trials or an I9. I don't remember ever having to tighten my cones other than (obviously durrr) after I've taken it apart. Plus I've not had it apart for MANY months now, really should service the bugger haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 The lockring on mine used to come undone... Until I got the proper allen key for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Blah I9s haven't been tried and tested on trials bikes though, they *could* be amazing but nobody knows yet... King do post data about their hubs, tested to 800 ft-lbs, more than an I9 which claim 700 I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Ive never had to re-tighten my king cones, mine could do with a quick strip and clean now but its never skipped on me once, not doing bad for a 6 year old hub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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