LordMersey Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hello Was just wondering what frames/parts to stay away from for reasons like snapping too easily leaking etc Cheers Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiuSliS Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 (edited) Zhi comes to my mind when someone asks this question. Edit: Thanks to Janis for sharing Edited March 17, 2010 by MiuSliS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsrider.chris Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Zhi comes to my mind when someone asks this question. Edit: Thanks to Janis for sharing shiiit that cuda been brutal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCottTrials Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Zhi comes to my mind when someone asks this question. Edit: Thanks to Janis for sharing damn that was lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Zhi comes to my mind when someone asks this question. Why, because a powerful and sketchy TGS rider who crashes a lot snapped a set of bars? To answer the original question, you really need to be more specific! There are so many factors to a components strength, but the biggest thing is buying the right parts for the right style/rider. I know riders who use light comp frames for a whole season without issue. Frames which my fat arse would probably break in a few months, and which would probably last a TGS basher a matter of weeks... Lightweight parts are definitely more popular than a few years ago though, and it is harder to get really strong parts if you need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam-pantera Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 matt i completely agree with you , recently there has been a trend that nearly all parts have been made to save weight but sacrifice there overall strength . not to long ago most mod riders would proofer to use a profile or king rear hub for strength and reliability but now days people favour the freewheel for weight saving , im not saying that freewheels are weak or inadequate but some riders are struggling to get the parts they would like . it still puzzles me why zoo stopped making the 2005 shape zoo bars as they were really nice and now other companies have capitalised on the market and built replica bars . at the end of the day ride what is right for you , if your a heavy sketchy guy then don't buy tiny weight frames and parts . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 I think the new trend for lighter weight stuff can only be a good thing......the Echo TR and urban ranges have the heavy weight stuff, whereas the Sl and koxx/ monty/onza etc cater for the lightweight. Also pushes rider to be less bashy with their stuff I reckons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Deng freehubs, Echo SL forks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyBazz (: Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Just generally cheap, tacky, rip- off brands, E.G. Zhi, Rulong etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Old tensile cranks limey1 frames YBN half-link chains Dicta freewheels Unsealed hubs of any variety ( apart from XTR in xc ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 (edited) 06 echo rims half link chains also at the strength of kings/profiles compared to the popular ffw setup, ffw is probably more popular due to it being much cheaper and most off the shelf bikes are coming with ffw, not everyone has the cash to change drivetrain and profiles seem to get killed more than freewheels do, based on the posts on the forum which probably has a sway on the popularity of each setup too. Edited March 17, 2010 by ogre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franksx2005 Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Deng freehubs, Echo SL forks. Whats wrong with the sl forks mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 06 echo rims half link chains also at the strength of kings/profiles compared to the popular ffw setup, ffw is probably more popular due to it being much cheaper and most off the shelf bikes are coming with ffw, not everyone has the cash to change drivetrain and profiles seem to get killed more than freewheels do, based on the posts on the forum which probably has a sway on the popularity of each setup too. Were they the echo cnc'd ones? Anywho, what was wrong with these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 They snap very easily, everyone I've known to have a set snapped them very quickly. Before they snap they're also incredibly flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 They have a terrible reputation for being weak, although I don't think they are anywhere near as bad as people make out. I built one up which lasted for 9 months or more last year and it didn't seem any worse than a DX32. Just shows how much difference a good wheelbuild makes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Were they the cnc'd ones though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 (edited) Were they the cnc'd ones though? hurr durr captain specific, all deng rims are cnc'd to a degree. i assume you mean the scooped rims? they were 05 06 rim nomery (scroll a bit) Edited March 17, 2010 by ogre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSmokeyJoe Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Weren't the 06's made with rather large holes? Then for 07 they were made a smidge smaller, creating a montrously strong rim? My 07's are 18 months+ old, still true!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr ailsbury Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 The old 'scooped' echo rims are absolutly brilliant rims, bought mine when they very first came out and i'm still running them front and back and had no problems at all! It was the drilled ones that came out after them that where weak as shite I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Weren't the 06's made with rather large holes? Then for 07 they were made a smidge smaller, creating a montrously strong rim? My 07's are 18 months+ old, still true!!! the urban? it was a complete re-make. thats the 06, check out the flat profile on the top of the rim, the 07 swoops upwards, is allot thicker 110g heavier, an generally awesome. after 2 years mine is starting to die a little, but 2 years is awesome for £35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 the urban? it was a complete re-make. thats the 06, check out the flat profile on the top of the rim, the 07 swoops upwards, is allot thicker 110g heavier, an generally awesome. after 2 years mine is starting to die a little, but 2 years is awesome for £35 Holy shit, It looks as though I could stand on it and it would break. And I weigh a sub zero weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCottTrials Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Holy shit, It looks as though I could stand on it and it would break. And I weigh a sub zero weight. If that where true, when nude you would float. How cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGAN Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 If that where true, when nude you would float. How cool hhhhahahah that made me laugh and to answer the initial question at hand basically evrything non trialtech is crap weak and flexy thesedays deng still makes good quality rims but its been said before its down to the build, if anything breaks on my bike i look on here first for something older and more rigid rather than buying new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSmokeyJoe Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 the urban? it was a complete re-make. thats the 06, check out the flat profile on the top of the rim, the 07 swoops upwards, is allot thicker 110g heavier, an generally awesome. after 2 years mine is starting to die a little, but 2 years is awesome for £35 Yeah I was on about the 07 Urban rim. (although deng made no other sort of rim that year??) Ahhh right, I see, flatter profile etc. Agreed, for the price, theres no beating the 07's, I'll take the weight penalty if it means I'm not always conscious that I'll break/buckle them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 (edited) a good gapping session and i can fold the sidewalls a bit, but nothing some TLC with an adjustable spanner doesn't fix hhhhahahah that made me laugh and to answer the initial question at hand basically evrything non trialtech is crap weak and flexy bull shit there's plenty of good non trial tech parts thats such an unfair sweeping statement, it'd be stupid of companies to release parts that didn't break anyway, trials is a small market, the few companies involved need us to buy new bits to stay i business, selling strong parts all the time isn't going to be good for business, hence the wave of cheaper lighter stuff that encourages you to buy more often blah blah. also the range of trials stuff we have today, and the competition between a few small companies, is really awesome for such a niche sport. Edited March 18, 2010 by ogre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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