Shy D. Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) Hi guys! I have an issue with such complete on a rear side of my mod: Hope Mono Trials+TryAll Nowar rim+Rockman Bub Disc. Wheel is 4 crosses laced both sides. The problem is that I've changed my Avid BB7 to ordered from Tarty Hope Mono Trials disc brake, and after mounting everything together I've found that Hope's caliper are rubed by spokes. There is only 1-2 mm space needed to solve this issue but I do not know how to proceed with it. As for now I've ordered +20 mm disc adapter (last resort), but I wish to use 160 mm disc though... Does anybody know how to fix it? Edited February 26, 2010 by Shy D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispyboy Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I put a spacer in between the frame and hub the oppisite side to the caliper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 use the spokes in the "head out " position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollied Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 use the spokes in the "head out " position Then you won't lace your wheel correctly will you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) Then you won't lace your wheel correctly will you. tarty recommend it so argue with them instead of me. When using this rim with a rear disc brake, we recommend lacing all the disc side spokes 'heads out' to ensure the best possible brake caliper clearance. Edited February 26, 2010 by josh barker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafal Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 why 4 crosses lacing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollied Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 there will be a reason why people use inbound and outbound, otherwise everyone would just do it in a generic manner to save hassle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 there will be a reason why people use inbound and outbound, otherwise everyone would just do it in a generic manner to save hassle no, people would do that when they run a rear rim with offset spoke holes for more reliable caliper and spoke clearance why 4 crosses lacing? because its stronger, and its a rear wheel, so it will enhance the wheelbuild strength Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Just put 6 washers underneath the rotor, then one on the end of the axle. Respoking the wheel incorrectly sounds a bit insane to me.... And as for 4 cross, I don't know why no-one really uses it. it adds a few grams in extra spoke weight but it's much stronger. Same for radially spokes front wheels, why? It barely saves anything and make the wheel far weaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy D. Posted February 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 why 4 crosses lacing? I had no other choice than buy 182 mm DT spokes. It's rather hard to find right length spokes here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy D. Posted February 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Just put 6 washers underneath the rotor, then one on the end of the axle. Respoking the wheel incorrectly sounds a bit insane to me.... And as for 4 cross, I don't know why no-one really uses it. it adds a few grams in extra spoke weight but it's much stronger. Same for radially spokes front wheels, why? It barely saves anything and make the wheel far weaker. Agree with you 100%. 4x wheel is very stiff and strong, each 182 mm spoke weigh only 4,5 gr. (144 gr. in total), so you will save not much grams but will gain extra durability. Thanks to you all guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totaltrials Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Just put 6 washers underneath the rotor, then one on the end of the axle. Respoking the wheel incorrectly sounds a bit insane to me.... And as for 4 cross, I don't know why no-one really uses it. it adds a few grams in extra spoke weight but it's much stronger. Same for radially spokes front wheels, why? It barely saves anything and make the wheel far weaker. People do radial just for how it looks. Well.. you might get the occasional chap who bothers because it's lighter but mainly because of the looks I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Then you won't lace your wheel correctly will you. Respoking the wheel incorrectly sounds a bit insane to me.... And as for 4 cross, I don't know why no-one really uses it. it adds a few grams in extra spoke weight but it's much stronger. Same for radially spokes front wheels, why? It barely saves anything and make the wheel far weaker. The main reason people do heads out and heads in lacing is that it's a hell of a lot easier (some people argue that by having the heads in/out as the leading spoke it helps take the driving force of your wheel better and blah blah blah, but for the vast majority of people it makes absolutely no difference at all). When you lace all on them inbound it's a bit tricky getting them to bend round each other, but it works fine. With most wide flanged rear hubs like the Bub or H hubs, you have to do this. It isn't weaker or anything, it's literally just harder to build. It solves this problem with no downside - all good. Regarding 3x/4x, it's not really that much stronger, and a bit of spoke flex is going to be good for your wheel in terms of taking the sting out of landings - especially with lighter and lighter rear rims. EDIT: Shy-D., Adam ran that exact same wheel and brake setup on his Aurem and had to do the same thing. Definitely worth trying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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