toyota200x Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I am considering purchasing this frame & was wondering if anyone is using a rear V on it. I have home machined adapters that utilize the lower 4 bolt mount as the pivot area similar to the Heatsink Mk.3 adapters. The rim I will be using is a DX32. Any insight on if this will work is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Sounds ace, got some pictures of your work? Bear in mind you may have to move the mounts inwards slightly to compensate for the 38mm rim, as trials frames are designed around 47mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Cant see why it wouldn't work, but you'd most likely need a booster on there. The DX32 should be fine as you're running a vee . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyota200x Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Well I know on my mod with similar adapters the V brake pad is very low in the arm (close to the pivot). I was concerned that because the control has horz. drop outs that I wouldn't be able to move the pad far enough down with this typle of V adapter. If anyone has pictures of a V brake setup on a Control that would be ideal. Keep the info coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) Hello mate, not long ago, I switched to rear Vee on my Echo Control 2009 because I couldn't stand my hs33 anymore... Now, if you want to know, there is absolutely no problem using this brake system. The thing is, you will have to use a brake booster as this frame flexes quite a lot! My booster is under my neon vee-adapters, that permits to have a nice setup. I f you have anymore questions, feel free to ask in this thread. Edited February 11, 2010 by Canardweb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyota200x Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Do you have some pictures of your setup? A side shot at the pad location would be nice. I plan on using a booster, they are a must on all setups IMO. Thank you for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Do you have some pictures of your setup? A side shot at the pad location would be nice. I plan on using a booster, they are a must on all setups IMO. Thank you for the info. I will try taking a photo this evening and post it mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 a booster under the brake won't be nearly as effective as a booster on top, there is a lot of flex from the adaptors and vee posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 a booster under the brake won't be nearly as effective as a booster on top, there is a lot of flex from the adaptors and vee posts. I don't feel any flex at all... and a booster on the top is horrid. Here is a photo of my setup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I am sure the brake is stiff enough like that (even no booster is stiff enough) but its not about the feel, its about the power, a booster on top is 1,000,000x better than one underneith for holding power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.tattoo Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 anyone got a pic of the booster on top of a v brake as thinking bout getting one? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Got to agree on top is the way forward, get lots of flex from the adaptors and pivot posts. The increase in hold you get from putting a booster on top is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyota200x Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Thanks for the picture, but I have to request 1 more. Can you get one from the side showing where the pad is located in the V arm slot? What size cog are you running in the rear? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I am sure the brake is stiff enough like that (even no booster is stiff enough) but its not about the feel, its about the power, a booster on top is 1,000,000x better than one underneith for holding power. Well Ali,I know what you mean, but my holding power is now great even after not grinding for about two weeks! Thanks for the picture, but I have to request 1 more. Can you get one from the side showing where the pad is located in the V arm slot? What size cog are you running in the rear? Thanks! I'll try to take that pic tomorrow. I am running 18/15 gear ratio! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endohopper Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Well , I'm clearly WAY too stupid to figure out how to link to a picture I uploaded , but in this thread is a shot of my booster setup . Looks kinda daft and too high up , but radically influences brake hold . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I'll put it this way, when i was running an avid ultimate vee set up on my 07 control (the one with the big cn in-built booster) there was a large improvement in the holding power you got from running a booster on the top aswell. Yes it didn't look as clean, but the brake performed noticeably better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyota200x Posted February 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Have you been able to get a side shot of the V setup? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guantanamo Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I am considering purchasing this frame & was wondering if anyone is using a rear V on it. I have home machined adapters that utilize the lower 4 bolt mount as the pivot area similar to the Heatsink Mk.3 adapters. The rim I will be using is a DX32. Any insight on if this will work is greatly appreciated. I too am considering v's for my marino fourplay would like a little more modulation for street. Any body running them on their fourplay? what after market levers are there available, can only see avid, shimano or because levers but would quite like something nice and cnced. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Have you been able to get a side shot of the V setup? Thanks Not yet! My phone is sort of... dead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I too am considering v's for my marino fourplay would like a little more modulation for street. Any body running them on their fourplay? what after market levers are there available, can only see avid, shimano or because levers but would quite like something nice and cnced. Thanks Paul make some nice cnc levers and obviously the avid ultimate levers are very pimp cnc machined, sealed bearing pivots etc, but both are horrificly expensive and offer no considerable performance increase over an avid SD7 or SD SL lever. But hey if you have the money then the pimp factor is pretty high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 If anyone has acess to a CNC machine, your own CMC'ed levers would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 My project this year at school is to make some V-brake levers! I'll let you all know... Carbon fibre by the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyota200x Posted February 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Not yet! My phone is sort of... dead! Phone alive yet? Can you snap a picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) Phone alive yet? Can you snap a picture? I can't! I skipped back to HS33! Sorry... WHat did you want to see btw? Edited February 26, 2010 by Canardweb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyota200x Posted March 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Thanks for the picture, but I have to request 1 more. Can you get one from the side showing where the pad is located in the V arm slot? What size cog are you running in the rear? Thanks! As I asked here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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