6ft-midget Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I had an incident earlier with the local gendarmes, which almost ended with me getting my collar felt and bike confiscated for trying to discuss the issue. Anyways Ive tried and failed to use the search function and i was wondering is a saddle a legal requirement for a pushbike on British roads? Oh, and also mudgaurds. Any help is much appreciated because this bobby is out to have my bike because he thinks i was back chatting him, when all i had done was reply to him threatening to arrest us for having no mudguards or saddles with "I didn't think saddles were a requirement". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 It says nothing about needing a saddle or mudguards in 'The Pedal Bicycles (Safety) Regulations'. All it mentions is that bikes sold have to have reflectors, a bell, and correctly adjusted brakes. Link to the boring-est knowledge of bicycles ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ft-midget Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Yeah that's what I thought, But we all know that it's pointless arguing with coppers. all you get is a fine and possibly slightly emptier shed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hitcher Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 From experience it's easier not to argue just take one for the team and be on your way. At the end of the day you'll always be wrong and them 'right' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HargrovesToby Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 It says nothing about needing a saddle or mudguards in 'The Pedal Bicycles (Safety) Regulations'. All it mentions is that bikes sold have to have reflectors, a bell, and correctly adjusted brakes. Link to the boring-est knowledge of bicycles ever. Hey, A bike brought from s shop must leave with reflectors and a bell, i work in the industry. Trials bikes are deemed for competition use only, so being stopped results in " i was on my way to a practice officer etc etc!" Once a production bike has left the shop, you can remove and dispose of bell and reflectors, if riding at night however, you must have lights or LED to "display yourself." Mudguards are not a legal requirement, otherwise every bike would come with them so hes talking out his arse! any problems give me a shout, il run through the wholeof UK cycle law with you! toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 (edited) Get a print out and take it with you, then next time he collars you give him the paperwork an ask him how he feels he'd hold up in court for harrassment! Edited February 3, 2010 by isitafox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HargrovesToby Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Get a print out and take it woth you, then next time he collars you give him the paperwork an ask him how he feels he'd hold up in court for harrassment! second that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ft-midget Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I was thinking of saying that if he could prove 100% that a seat and mudguards are a legal requirement then i would get them fitted, but at the time i weren't sure so i thought better not. Cheers for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 That's the first I've heard of it now being law to have a seat? Lights are the only important thing really, but I've argued with a PCSO once because I wasn't even riding when they spoke to me about them, and I also said I don't ride on roads anyway because of my gearing! I'll be out riding tomorrow night Josh, hopefully we'll be able to speak to them about it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Trying to "get one over" on the feds is never really a good idea (unless they're PCSOs in which case have a little fun with them). Just smile, be polite and move on. Generally they'll either be friendly and just make their point and you move on, or they'll be looking to provoke a response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 That's what we usual do around here, but as Josh said, he tried that and the copper just started getting arsey! I've had the same, I was genuinely asking them why [whatever they said] and they threatened to take my bike off me for arguing!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 With the guys like that they won't really listen to what you're saying though, so you just have to give it the old "yes officer" *nods* and walks away. Sucks that people are becoming pedantic jobsworths but it's easier for them to be seen doing things around the community by picking up on silly things like this than doing the stuff that matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ft-midget Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Yeah I get what your saying Luke. I know when to walk away, it just really grinds my gears when they powertrip like that and there's pretty much nothing you can do about it. And the PCSOs around here a pretty good, they most of us aren't really doing anything wrong and use their discretion to let us off stuff like riding on paths because we aren't going very fast and consider pedestrians haha. Except for one who used to be around here who tried to do me for speeding because I over took her (safely) when she went past a speed camera but obviously nothing stuck She had it in for me since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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