monty-james Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Hey, recently got a new bike, its second hand and its got a grind on the rim, its good but i still use tar, what do you think is better? A grind or tar? Or both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33th3tr33 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Obviously haven't found the search bar yet......... grind, with some decent pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxie_Monty Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Hey, recently got a new bike, its second hand and its got a grind on the rim, its good but i still use tar, what do you think is better? A grind or tar? Or both? Personal preference really, i prefer both for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty-james Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Yeah i suppose your right, i prefer having/using both. It also depends what you are bleeding your brakes with and like l33th3tr33 said, it depends how good your pads are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigamac Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Smooth rim, no tar, good pads. Feels brilliant, shame it is only good in the dry. Other wise Medium grind with nice pads = schweetttt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Summer, smooth rim, tar. Winter, ground rim, Rock Blues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Light sharp grind...Coustellier CNC'd pads work great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSmokeyJoe Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 SHARP light/medium grind with Heatsink Yellows. Braking sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Thibeau Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 in my opinion tar shouldn't be used at all. If you use it on a grind it actually fills the crevices of the grind and makes your grind shit very fast! Im not sure why people would even run a smooth rim because grinds are just overall better, but if somone does use smooth they shouldnt use tar either, tar is just dirty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty-james Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Yeah, i geuss its a matter of opinion, they can both be equal depending on your setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niwlen Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Been riding for almost 10yrs now, only trust a proper grind with good pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty-james Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 What pads do you suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 in my opinion tar shouldn't be used at all. If you use it on a grind it actually fills the crevices of the grind and makes your grind shit very fast! Im not sure why people would even run a smooth rim because grinds are just overall better, but if somone does use smooth they shouldnt use tar either, tar is just dirty Totally with you on this one, tar is filth. Get a decent grind; use a fresh disc. A good set of pads, I use Try-all browns (use the search to find out the best ones and what grind to use), set up your brake properly and get a decent bleed and you'll be sorted braking wise in all conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I have a light-medium grind and have Try All Crocos. Can't notice any difference between wet or dry and have good bite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Canham Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Sup James, Ive only ever used tar, but ive rode only a few months in total. Never used grinds. except when rode your bike. I think its just a matter of opinion like some people have already said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Sup James, Ive only ever used tar, but ive rode only a few months in total. Never used grinds. except when rode your bike. I think its just a matter of opinion like some people have already said I don't think it is. Tar is an easy if not poor substitute for a poor brake set up. A properly set up brake, with a decent grind and a good set of pads will always out perform tar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
::CH!P:: Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I don't think it is. Tar is an easy if not poor substitute for a poor brake set up. A properly set up brake, with a decent grind and a good set of pads will always out perform tar. Couldn't have put it better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefos Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 i use to use tar on my v's when i first started riding to get a bit more bite for rocks and stuff, but soon found out it was a bad idea!! a little bit of water and you have no brakes!! agree with what people are saying set your brakes right and decent pads and you'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Canham Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 I don't think it is. Tar is an easy if not poor substitute for a poor brake set up. A properly set up brake, with a decent grind and a good set of pads will always out perform tar. Not saying that i prefer tar, just saying that i have never tried a grin rim.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do do do Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 both seems to work well i had them both on there when i got it and it hasnt really slipped much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1995 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 I prefer a grind over tar with some good pads. I have a light grind with TNN Engineering CRM pads and it work a treat and sounds great too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do do do Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I don't think it is. Tar is an easy if not poor substitute for a poor brake set up. A properly set up brake, with a decent grind and a good set of pads will always out perform tar. So basiclly what your saying is that tar works but not well? And looking across the page near on everyone agrees a good grind works well! So should'nt the two work really well together. Ive recently brought an onza tpro with both grind and tar and as of yet not had no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I don't think it is. Tar is an easy if not poor substitute for a poor brake set up. A properly set up brake, with a decent grind and a good set of pads will always out perform tar. Yeah, I agree and love grinds in the winter. But in summer when the weathers dry. (Mostly) Tar can be great. A set of Snowies in CNC or something with a but of tar on smooth works a treat. Plus, You don't need to buy new discs, grind your rim and make your rim weaker. However in Autumn/ Winter Grinds ALWAYS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty-james Posted February 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Ive used both, but the grind on my rim is very light, so using both seems to work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ft-midget Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I use tar in the same way as you use a TPA, if im out on a ride and i find my grind isn't sufficient enough for hold i put a bit of tar on my rim just to give it that extra edge. I'd prefer not to use it at all in the summer though it just seems too sticky and ruins the feel of the brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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