Borat Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Easy guys, I'm not a noob to building wheels, seeing as I have been doing it for 1 year or so. But when my dad was up north the other day, he popped into tarty for me, to get some new spokes. As I had snapped 4 within a month, and these were spokes off an 07 t-pro, which had been built up multiple times. I have built it up trued it, but ever 2 spokes, there are 2 spokes sticking up further. Please tell me what I have done wrong. :L It is a echo urban rim and onza t-master hub, 36h and 3cross. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 are the spokes that stick out as crossed as the other spokes in the wheel? pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 ever 2 spokes, there are 2 spokes sticking up further. Please tell me what I have done wrong. It's not laced quite right, what you have done is laced one side of the spokes offset one hole from the other. If you can get a decent photo I can show you what needs to go where Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 are the spokes that stick out as crossed as the other spokes in the wheel? pictures? Sounds like you haven't crossed them properly....or there's an epic flat spot in your rim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Just uploading pics now. But the thing is, it's all crossed fine (so I think) 2 over, 1 under.... Hmmmmmmmmmmm Shit pictures, you cant see the 2 that stick up, then the two that are normal, then 2 up etc etc etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigamac Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I have to say, it doesn't look right. But i can't build wheels yet so i have no clue what's wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leistonbmx Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) Looks fine to me. Dished to one side? Edited January 26, 2010 by Leistonbmx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Nope, it just eggs, because I can't get it true as there are like loads of spokes won't do up tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Trials Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) Yeh, defiantly laced wrong. I did the same before (copied a guide for a 36h instead of 32h) http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/wiki/How_to_build_a_wheel - See if you noticed anything you did wrong. EDIT: On the left picture that's how your spokes are with the two green lines (kind of parallel) it needs to be the same at the other side like what i made up in red. I don't know how to explain how to do it because i haven't made them in a while but i know it needs to be like that. Edited January 26, 2010 by Jamie_Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Yeh, defiantly laced wrong. I did the same before (copied a guide for a 36h instead of 32h) http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/wiki/How_to_build_a_wheel - See if you noticed anything you did wrong. EDIT: On the left picture that's how your spokes are with the two green lines (kind of parallel) it needs to be the same at the other side like what i made up in red. I don't know how to explain how to do it because i haven't made them in a while but i know it needs to be like that. Hmm, but that means it would be laced into the wrong eyelets on each side of the rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigamac Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Hmm, but that means it would be laced into the wrong eyelets on each side of the rim. You know waht you gotta do, well best option i think. De-lace. Re-lace. Have fun (: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 You know waht you gotta do, well best option i think. De-lace. Re-lace. Have fun (: He be right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigamac Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 He be right For once in my life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I give up. Rebuilt it all, still the same? I'm actually gunna put my foot through it in a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Its hard to be sure from those pictures, but I don't think you've laced it wrong. Could be the spokes are for 4x instead of 3x? You could look up the dimensions of your hub and rim on tarty and whack them into a spoke calculator, then you can see what lengths you need for 3x, 4x etc and compare them to your spokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I give up. Rebuilt it all, still the same? I'm actually gunna put my foot through it in a minute. It's not laced quite right, what you have done is laced one side of the spokes offset one hole from the other. If you can get a decent photo I can show you what needs to go where What Adam said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Just uploading pics now. Cheers - the problem is as I thought, one set of spokes is offset the wrong way in relation to the other. If you look down the centre of the axle, the head of the 'blue' spoke is one hole to the right of the head of the 'red' spoke, but they enter the rim in the opposite formation (blue spoke to the LEFT of the red spoke). This means the blue spoke has to reach further than it should (so appears to be too short) and the red spoke isn't stretching far enough (so appears too long). Basically you need to move all of the spokes on one side of the wheel round two spoke holes (in this case, blue spoke needs to go from position 1 to position 2... then the spoke that was in 2 needs to go to 3, etc). Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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