Andeee Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Not sure if anyone has seen this yet but just thought i would share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 seem's they couldn't make up their minds what that bike was aimed for. Not very trialsy geo combined with super long stem and small front tyre.....no thanks, no thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) The picture Andy posted up is a different frame to the Picture of the CZAR posted up previous 1020 W/B 15mm B/B 380 C/S 72 H/A Far better Edited September 24, 2012 by Seabasss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 And still no pivotal saddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Just seen this on Tarts website. Holy stem stackers Mr deng! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Pfft, that's nothing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 That's got to feel weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Just seen this on Tarts website. Holy stem stackers Mr deng! Actually we put the extra 20mm in there, since the bike only comes with 10mil. Better for the steerer to be too long for some riders and they can cut it down (personally I would leave it like that), than it be too short and they need to buy new parts for their new bike! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Actually we put the extra 20mm in there, since the bike only comes with 10mil. Better for the steerer to be too long for some riders and they can cut it down (personally I would leave it like that), than it be too short and they need to buy new parts for their new bike! This. i hate it when you get second hand forks where people have cut the hell out of them. If you've added 20mm worth of spacers, surely that means the steer tube sits 20mm into the stem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 If you've added 20mm worth of spacers, surely that means the steer tube sits 20mm into the stem? Or that Deng usually expects them to cut the steerers down on full builds. Much better idea to keep them full length though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 What Cai said. We cut around 10mm or so off the steerers from when they come out the box to run them at that length as it is. 30mm seems like a pretty happy medium really. One thing to bear in mind as well is stem choice - the Pures come with a relative short stem compared to what a lot of riders run on them aftermarket (quite a few people run 150x30 stems on them), so it helps keep the bars at a reasonable height even if it looks a little strange to people used to seeing stems 'slammed'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Ahh, forgot bikes don't come fully assembled Its a bit poor though, selling a full build without enough stem stackers to fit the forks though, and expect the re-sellers/customers to modify it to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 It does allow the rider to customise their bike for their own preference though I suppose. The Koxx bikes come with a relatively short steerer as standard so you lose that option on there where some riders might want to be able to raise the front end a bit. As a shop we have to build the bikes entirely from scratch (incl. wheels, etc.) so it's not really the end of the world as it's just part of the service of assembling a bike for a customer - in the same way that the 4-bolt mounts need filing, disc mounts need facing, etc. I guess if you were buying direct from China though it might suck a bit because you'd have a bit more work to do as the end user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Give or take 10mm thats how I run mine, and I like how it works. Who gives a f**k if its stacker city. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Although funnily enough, now on the 2013 20" bikes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Although funnily enough, now on the 2013 20" bikes... That stem would be a lovely alternative to Try-All/ Rockman stems if it was forged. Or CNC'd.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Arent the steps sloped for more knee / chest clearance? If so, why have a sloping top cap with a massive clamp section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Arent the steps sloped for more knee / chest clearance? If so, why have a sloping top cap with a massive clamp section? Do you mean steerer or bar clamp? The steerer clamp area is still lower than a normal TR stem and is as much in line with the stem body as possible for a welded stem. The top of the stem itself is lower than before so you still get a bit more chest clearance than previously. With a forged one you can get it all nice and smooth but that's about as close as they could get. Still a huge improvement over the old TRunter stem even if Cap's raging at having to cut steerers at angles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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