Onza Ice Front End Set Up!

[Matt Vandart]

Cocky presents good advice dude.

[Paperclip]

Cocky presents good advice dude.

about god darn time I actually made a half decent post anyway ;P

[*Koxx hydroxx 2 Jack *]

I opted for a high front end to go with the bb I used a echo stem thats now been discontinued however the geo is the same as the biggest echo tr stem.

the geo of the frame is too short and high to run a small stem unless your really short yourself (of witch you shouldent really be on a long frame) Id say the echo tr is the best option stem out for an ice being slightly shorter than a master stem but with more angle so you get a better feel over the front wheel.

many people went on my ice when i had it and commented on my stem and theres a hell of a lot of people who attempted to take the piss me having a abnormal stem but going on a ride near me theres very few who dont have one now

EDIT: after reading the first page I stand by my post and will also like to add that the best way to set up a bike is to make it feel nice on two wheels i.e your stem, you can then tilt your bars to make it nice on the back wheel, I fond my bike is both good on back wheel and two wheels its also nice to gap to front and with the stem real easy to wheel swap on objects.

I have recomended this stem to quiet a few on this forum aswell so have a word with them before you go out and buy a trialtech stem simply because two people have them.

Think the jast guy was a guy called koxxhydroxxjack or somethink have a wee word with him and if your in two minds about a trialtech stem or echo tr just think who rides smoother . . . .

again heres my proof that the bike riders well on both wheels remains flicky and is easy to ride whist remaining smooth on each wheel http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....ils&id=1783

he tells the truth , i was running a nuc stem aswell , the echo tr makes it much better works good with monty excuusives Edited December 31, 2009 by *Koxx hydroxx 2 Jack *

[Mark W]

It seems at the moment that everyone loves running super low stems on their mods, and I have no idea why. Well, that's a lie - the reason seems to be that they 'feel nice on the back wheel', which tends to translate to 'I just do sidehops so it feels good for them'. There's no doubt about it that a lower stem means that once you're on the back wheel, most bikes will happily sit there. However, for pretty much anything other than sidehops, they really ruin the feel of your bike. I quite like doing pedal ups and bunnyhops and the like, and with a low stem on they just feel shit. I tried a lower, shorter stem than my Trialtech Race (I'm running the Try-All big boy stem now - the £28 one - and it's really nice too. Not had much of a chance to test it, but it's a bit lighter and looks a bit better), and on pedal ups and bunnyhops I was always only just getting the front end high enough to not plough into whatever I was riding simply because they're effort to lift up. Your weight's further forwards, so it's naturally going to be harder to lift.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you just like putting the S into TGS, and that's about it, a shorter, lower stem would probably be fine. However, if you plan on doing other things, it'd probably be a pretty good idea to trying something like the Trialtech Race, Onza T-Master or the Viz Forged stems. They just make your bike nicer altogether, and also make manuals and spins a shit-tonne nicer too if that's of any interest.

If you want to try it out, I've got a Viz forged stem for sale for £20 plus a few quid for postage.

EDIT: Oh, and I've been running the Trialtech Sport bars and the Try-All carbon bars. Both are awesome, but the T-A bars are slightly more awesome-r, although they are obviously a lot more.