Tar Or Grind

[mightyrod]

hi just wondering do u use tar on your front rims or use a grind or just keep them smooth thats if u dont use a disc

[Ullapool Trials Rider]

hi just wondering do u use tar on your front rims or use a grind or just keep them smooth thats if u dont use a disc

Deffo get a grind, 'cause you can get pads that work in all weather. Such as the Try-All Croco Browns. Tar does not work in all weather, but it does provide good braking in dry weather.

[Ben John-Hynes]

Tar does not work in all weather, but it does provide good inconsistent braking in dry weather.

[willdudeXD]

i run tar for the moment, but im getting a grind soonish

[Ullapool Trials Rider]

Tar does not work in all weather, but it does provide good braking (until it wears off) in dry weather.

[stephenpoll_41]

I used to run with tar, found it a hassle to keep applying and not having a consistent grip all round (could be down to me being useless with tar??). Finally got round to getting a grind I find it's much better for me untill it wears down. All down to personal preference, any chance you could have a go one someones ride with a similar settup but with a grind?

Edited December 29, 2009 by stephenpoll_41

[Mikey-uk]

I currently run tar but its lethal when wet. The good thing with tar in the dry is that no matter how shit your pads are tar will always grab them (unless ofc wet)

Recap: Wet weather run a medium / harsh grind with some decent pads in CNC backings. Dry weather run tar with what ever crappy pads you can find but make sure to have spare tar with you as I found it wears off after about 2-3 hours of non stop riding (You don't really use much tar to be honest, I've had the same ping pong sized block for about 2 months now)

[mightyrod]

the problem i have is in the wet my rear brake works so well im using rock pads on the back but my front brake just does not work at all i think iv got plasmatic crv on the front iv tryed disc up front but i did not like it at all

Edited December 29, 2009 by mightyrod

[step]

I use tar on the front , just 5-6 lines and the Vee holds like a charm.

On the rear i have a light grind , but when the grind wears out i add 7-8 lines of tar and it`s good again.

And oh , the sound of the brake is loud.

Edited December 30, 2009 by step

[Mikey-uk]

the problem i have is in the wet my rear brake works so well im using rock pads on the back but my front brake just does not work at all i think iv got plasmatic crv on the front iv tryed disc up front but i did not like it at all

Rear brake is good then, leave it. Front brake... You using v brake? If its a front maggy then they're plasmatic crm's (the pads i use on rear). Just use a little bit of tar on the front or (I know you said you didnt like it but..) Go disk.

[Ben John-Hynes]

Just use a little bit of tar on the front or (I know you said you didnt like it but..) Go disk.

Or grind?

[Mikey-uk]

Or grind?

Or that I havnt bothered to get mine ground again 'cos... Actually I have no reason. Probs get it done soon

[Filo]

i used a flapper wheel(griding wheel with sand paper) when i first went to rim breaks on the front.since ive gotten used to the feel ive grinding the rim with a grinding wheel.its got so much more bite and hold now.it gets kinda crazy on hooha's and gaps to front but its worth it.

[Luke_zoo]

Both.

[robotrhys]

Personally i'd invest in a set of disk forks and an Avid BB7 off chain reaction cycles. For the time being though, use tar if you're only riding in dry weather. I rode using tar on my back brake and it was quite damp and cold and worked fine if i kept re applying it every now and again.

Hope that helps..

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[Filo]

Personally i'd invest in a set of disk forks and an Avid BB7

this is also a good option,ive used bb7 for 2 1/2 years on a dual disc stock.ive very happy with how well they work.all my disc bike use bb7.there cheap,work good,adjustable and easy to set up.

[bundee80]

this is also a good option,ive used bb7 for 2 1/2 years on a dual disc stock.ive very happy with how well they work.all my disc bike use bb7.there cheap,work good,adjustable and easy to set up.

for the life of me, I CANNOT get my BB7's to lock consistently enough to do gaps to front. Does the rotor have much to do with it? Pads? Pads and rotor are brand new a few months ago, and I thought I broke them in ok. I'm using an XTR lever, just changed to new slick cables and housing. The feel is $$$$; the lock-up is $.

As far a tar vs. grind goes, I've just started grinding, and it works really well. I'm old-school, so I remember when tar was the only way to get a really good lock. I still use tar in the summer when I'm too lazy to grind. I need to get some new pads though; they glaze up pretty quick in the wet.

What's the advantage of CNC backings? Firmer? I'm thinking about the TNN CRM set-up. Anything close to comparable for the wet? I live in the NW, so it rains quite a bit.

[Filo]

what size rotor? my brakes were off the melon.they were brutal every use.i used 8in rotor ,ebc red pads,xtr levers and odyssey linear slick cables,im still using the same set up from 2 and a bit years ago.

i recon the lgm are better than the crm for the wet.we recently had a comp in the rain.it was pissing down,my front were terrible with heatsink blue,my back were fantastic with tnn lgm.i was suprised at how well they worked in the rain.

the alloy backings make the brakes stiffer cause of no pad flex.

[bundee80]

what size rotor? my brakes were off the melon.they were brutal every use.i used 8in rotor ,ebc red pads,xtr levers and odyssey linear slick cables,im still using the same set up from 2 and a bit years ago.

i recon the lgm are better than the crm for the wet.we recently had a comp in the rain.it was pissing down,my front were terrible with heatsink blue,my back were fantastic with tnn lgm.i was suprised at how well they worked in the rain.

the alloy backings make the brakes stiffer cause of no pad flex.

LGM...that's what I meant.

160mm rotor, so not huge. I figured rotor sized WOULD make a difference but not that much difference. I guess I'll need to upgrade and upsize.

[ghostrider88]

LGM...that's what I meant.

160mm rotor, so not huge. I figured rotor sized WOULD make a difference but not that much difference. I guess I'll need to upgrade and upsize.

it´s 203mm rotor 1inch=2,54cm

[Dave Sutton]

i got tar on my back rim and it makes it so much better you get more alot more grip but aparantly grinding is better never done it before though so..

[bundee80]

hi just wondering do u use tar on your front rims or use a grind or just keep them smooth thats if u dont use a disc

It kind of depends on how you ride. If you like your front to be off/on, tar is the way to go. Grinding tends to have much better modulation, albeit if you have magical tactile sense, you can modulate with tar on your rims. BTW, try using some punctuation... I almost got a seizure reading your post!

[Filo]

LGM...that's what I meant.

160mm rotor, so not huge. I figured rotor sized WOULD make a difference but not that much difference. I guess I'll need to upgrade and upsize.

Youll be suprised at how much difference between the rotor make.you wouldnt think it would be so much difference.its worth doing if your front brakes are terrible.