pashleylips Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Guys in need of a bit of help...This is my first frame with horizontal drop outs and im finding it incredibly difficult to get the tension right. The snail cam is as far back a possible and the chain is still far too slack, though with the dropouts being so small it doesn't look like i will be able to take a link out. I did see something about this problem before i purchased the bike, has anybody else had this problem? If so how the hell do i resole it?CheersTom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 i think theres a problem with rockman tensioners, lots of other people have had the same problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 get hold of a single halflink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 get hold of a single halflink.And a good dentist at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 And a good dentist at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Naah, one half link is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Correct. I ran one for 18 months - or there abouts - and the chain snapped 4 times. The half link did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 These frames are badly designed. On mine I couldn't run the recommended gear ratio and at the same time have the brake pads hit the rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pashleylips Posted December 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 This is such a shame.... Im in love with the bike, but this really is a bit of a nightmare. Sounds like halflink it will have to be but i do hate bodging chains together (bad history with snapped chains). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 They're not badly designed at all.A half link is one option, but I run large snail cams and they do the job just fine. No issues with the pads lining up with the rim at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pashleylips Posted December 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 What snail cams are you running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 TrialTech ones, but I wouldn't recommend them as they are made of cheese and deform very easily. I think Dave has stopped getting them now anyway. I would go for something like the try-alls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetrial Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) I found a set of Viz large cams, and they work just fine. My frame came with rockman tensioners. Problem was that at correct tension, the largest hole alligned with the bolt that sits in the frame. This caused the cam to deform under pedal tension. Echo makes steel cams, which might also be a good solution. Edited January 7, 2010 by freetrial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japslap Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 (edited) My first no seater frame was a 24/7 Danny Holroyd frame, I had the same kind of problem, I used a complete half link chain for awhile (until it snapped going onto the back wheel before a drop) then I started using kmc chains but I'd take an extra link out but I could only put the chain on the hub sprocket by moving the hub (with out the screws in) on the drive side past the drop out hole into the frame and to the end of the drop out on the non drive side as far as I could as it had the bit that goes into the drop out to stop it spinning, putting the already linked up chain on and then moving the wheel back out and putting the axle screws in, not sure if that helps but it worked for me Edited January 7, 2010 by japslap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob L Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I had the same problem with my echo control frame but I gave tartys a ring and they recommended a chain that they had fitted to the bikes they had built and now it fits just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I found a set of Viz large cams, and they work just fine. My frame came with rockman tensioners. Problem was that at correct tension, the largest hole alligned with the bolt that sits in the frame. This caused the cam to deform under pedal tension. Echo makes steel cams, which might also be a good solution. Cool, i might try some of the Viz ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Neon cams are pretty gigantic too, so they might be an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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