alistair14 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Im looking at getting an Onza Ice, and was wondering if theres any pros and cons on strengths and weight etc?cheersAli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyBazz (: Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Nice geo, nice colour, good for street AND natty, pretty good value for money. Onza are a pretty good quality make.Supposed to be problems with dropouts cracking, but not many have cracked, think its like 1%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair14 Posted December 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Nice geo, nice colour, good for street AND natty, pretty good value for money. Onza are a pretty good quality make.Supposed to be problems with dropouts cracking, but not many have cracked, think its like 1%.i heard about that as well.hows yours going? i love the looks of them. the frame light ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCottTrials Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 They ride like utter bollocks is the main problem. I have an onza blade which is supposed to be inferior but to my mind it's got much more going on...except it looks ugly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Supposed to be problems with dropouts cracking, but not many have cracked, think its like 1%.Yep, hardly any broke. To put people's minds at ease the new models have a gusset there anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair14 Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Yep, hardly any broke. To put people's minds at ease the new models have a gusset there anyway...im gunna sound like a complete noob here..... gussets? what are they ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Koxx hydroxx 2 Jack * Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 a con is its hard to run rear disk , using my try all hub and a bb7 , the rotor rubs against the frame i use a spacer , but now theres not much awel in the frame :/ and i also know someone had the same problem with a limey , he 'adapted' hes frame .. involving a grinder i do belive .. bu all in all there good , especially with back maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 im gunna sound like a complete noob here..... gussets? what are they ?An extra piece of metal welded in place to try and help spread the forces put through the frame. On the Ice 2, it's this triangular piece: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Them gussets look pretty beefy, I don't think any will crack now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair14 Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 An extra piece of metal welded in place to try and help spread the forces put through the frame. On the Ice 2, it's this triangular piece:ah gotcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_M Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) a con is its hard to run rear disk , using my try all hub and a bb7 , the rotor rubs against the frame i use a spacer , but now theres not much awel in the frame :/ and i also know someone had the same problem with a limey , he 'adapted' hes frame .. involving a grinder i do belive .. bu all in all there good , especially with back maggieI had the same problem building up my limey320, and can explain it for anyone concerned.Most mod frames are spaced at 116mm in the rear end. However, there are actually two options with hubs that get run with these.1) A 110mm hub, with 3mm of snail cam on each side, spacing it out to 116mm2) A 116mm hub, with no snail cams, or possibly snail cams on the outside on the dropoutsNow if you own a monty, your frame is different again. Its spaced at 106mm, and needs a monty hub also at this spacing to work. Snail cams are run on the outside of the dropouts.Finally, lets come to onza. Their new dropouts arn't designed to use snail cams, and are spaced 110mm. If you run a rim, brake, no worries you can just put in any 110mm hub and it will work. However, if you run a disc brake, you can't do this. Why?Disc hubs are designed to have something around 15mm distance from the end of the cones on the disc side, to the face of the rotor bolt mounts. A standard 110mm hub assumes that 3mm of this distance will be taken up by snail cams. Of course, on the onza this isn't the case cause your frame is 110mm, not 116mm. As a result, if you stick a H116 disc hub in your limey 320 frame, using only the 2mm spacers and no snail cams (like I tried), you'll get a nasty shock when the rotor rubs on the frame.So what hubs work with an onza and rear disc? Well either a dedicated 110mm hub. Viz make one. Or a 106mm monty hub, with 4mm of spacers of the drive side.I hope that helps anyone who's curious. Edited December 16, 2009 by Jack_M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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