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PIMP! But isn't titanium heavier than aluminum?

I believe it is not.

At least, what is definately true is it has higher strength to weigh, meaning you can use less of it for the same strength, which is what it's often used for on bikes.

Although things like ti axles for pedals work out stronger and lighter, emphasising that it must not be heavier than alu.

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I believe it is not.

At least, what is definately true is it has higher strength to weigh, meaning you can use less of it for the same strength, which is what it's often used for on bikes.

Although things like ti axles for pedals work out stronger and lighter, emphasising that it must not be heavier than alu.

According to Tarty, an alloy bolt weighs 65% less than a steel bolt, whilst titanium bolts are 43% lighter than steel bolts. So titanium is heavier. I guess the weight saving comes from the fact thay can use less material, as its much stronger.

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PIMP! But isn't titanium heavier than aluminum?

nope, my steel bolts in my stem are twice the weight of my ti ones.

Ti is so strong because it has flex. Hence the top frame companys dont use it because the frame wouldnt feel solid and would last for ages making the company no income from dead frames (if you get me)

if a company isnt worried about flex than they could probably use half as much material i supose yeah but then it will become very flexy i expect. you wouldnt really need to use half as much anyway as the weight saving from ali is alot in the first place

EDIT: just realised that what i have just said has no irrelevance to comparing ti and ali. ti is most definitely lighter though.

Edited by Rob Brodie
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Aluminium is lighter than titanium, however to get the same strength it needs to be thicker, this is why aluminium frames are much stiffer than titanium; the same could be said that because titanium is heavier (and stronger) than aluminium you need to use less to get the same weight, this results in a relatively more flexible frame. Roughly aluminium is 40% the density of steel, titanium is 60% the density of steel.

To me a titanium stem isnt for trials, you need stiffness and this isnt going to happen with a titanium fabrication against aluminium forging of the same weight.

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