Luke_zoo Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 After having an argument with college mates about cars vs bikes what will win? As my tutors say the bikes will win over cars but my mates dont belive anything, what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCottTrials Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Power to weight ratio, bikes = win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) Win at what?Comfortably cruising from cornwall to scotland?Ragging around a track?In a strait line race? Edited December 3, 2009 by RobinJI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Depends what it's 'winning' and what the stipulations are surely?The land speed record is held by a car, isn't it? Bikes for twistys, cars for straight lines I reckon - as long as specific guidelines were in place for what is being tested, and what actually makes a car a car and a bike a bike i.e. cars with bike engines and bikes with v8s etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 At the traffic light grand prix, bike will almost always win. Obviously it depends on the car and the bike but generally speaking, bike wins.However I dont have to dress head to toe in tight leather and sit outside in my car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Bikes for twistys, cars for straight lines I reckonPretty much the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Brodie Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 depends on the car / bike.look at drag cars vs. bikes for instance cars are usually about 2 seconds quicker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Pretty much the other way round.The land speed record is held by a car, isn't it?I guess it's car for both then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Pretty much the other way round.I was going to say that too...And I wouldn't fancy going for the land speed on 2 wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I think that bikes win the Cost>Performance ratio though.E.g. GSXR 1300 costs short of £10k and goes 200mph and would kick the ass of >99% of available production cars in a straight line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 You tend to go faster on a bike, but then I guess you also go faster if you duck tape a large rocket to your back. It's always gunna be a case of compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Depends what it's 'winning' and what the stipulations are surely?The land speed record is held by a car, isn't it? Bikes for twistys, cars for straight lines I reckon - as long as specific guidelines were in place for what is being tested, and what actually makes a car a car and a bike a bike i.e. cars with bike engines and bikes with v8s etc.Not being a plane missing its wings In terms of production vehicles bikes win though, easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 After having an argument with college mates about cars vs bikes what will win? As my tutors say the bikes will win over cars but my mates dont belive anything, what do you think?look at it as a Top Gear challenege scenareo.....you start in london, you have to drive to cornwall, to pick up 3 kegs of Prawns Dads finest home brewed Ale. he who gets back first wins.....bike v. Car, it's pretty obvious.On a serious note, on the ring, the bikes were SO annoying.Whilst being massively quicker on the straights, they were VERY slow around the bends, and held me up in both the mini and the audi, generally getting in the way.the only upside to a bike is the performance/£ factor, as it's pretty clear that just a 3-4k second hand bike is going to be more than ferarri quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beigemaster Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 plus, when driving a car, there is the added bonus that I don't have to worry about ripping my testicals open on the fuel tank if I crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Win at what?Comfortably cruising from cornwall to scotland?Ragging around a track?In a strait line race?Huh why have i been mentioned, is it because of my gay mobile?and boumsong beating chavs at anything is always fun, yes i know its not an achievement as such but it shows them that noise means nothing!Bikes go fast in straight lines and kill you in the wet.Cars like corners and don't kill you unless your an idiot.A rocket strapped to your back on the other hand, not only is that thrilling and quick, its also cost effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_zoo Posted December 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 plus, when driving a car, there is the added bonus that I don't have to worry about ripping my testicals open on the fuel tank if I crash.Yes but that is a car that has been supercharged and has 300Bhp where as the 600rr has 105Bhp so in that case the car will win but if they both had same Bhp what would it be then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OD404 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Yes but that is a car that has been supercharged and has 300Bhp where as the 600rr has 105Bhp so in that case the car will win but if they both had same Bhp what would it be then?But then the car would need to weigh the same as the bike...Cars and bikes are too different to make a particularly useful comparison if you ask me. It's more about what suits the rider/driver the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamus Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 preferences, i like bikes therefore i own onecars are much more practical (can carry my trials bike!), often much more reliable, much safer and much more socialbikes are ridiculous fun, at often legal speeds (my sumo rarely breaks 70 cos i spend my time in national speed limit lanes haring around twisties ) but as mentioned- traffic light grand prix= bike win unless you have thrown a lot of mods/ have a very very quick standard car (my 250f had a wrx scoob up to 60 then the weight advantage wore off and he stormed by.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Who really cares? They're completely different things, just go and ride/drive them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towler Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Bobby D on the forum, giving his bike a blast around knockhill. Pretty much no fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) Bikes, you can really see the fear in the eyes Within reason a car will out corner a bike simply because it has a lot more grip, a bike will out accelerate a car simply because it has more power to weight.Its all in context though a 60bhp supermoto will go round a kart track faster than a 600bhp skyline Edited December 3, 2009 by forteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_malcolm Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 People saying bikes for straight cars for corners, if you know how to corner and are confident then a bike will do a car all day long in the corners. Prime example clean country lane lots of tight twisty corners the bike will be long gone as it accelerates so much quicker out of the corners and can go through them a lot quicker then most cars on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towler Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 People saying bikes for straight cars for corners, if you know how to corner and are confident then a bike will do a car all day long in the corners. Prime example clean country lane lots of tight twisty corners the bike will be long gone as it accelerates so much quicker out of the corners and can go through them a lot quicker then most cars on the road.Totaly agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Car every time.You just can't compare a 10k bike and a 10k car because a car is so much more in every way - you're paying for 5x the materials to begin with!A better comparison for out and out performance would be to take a bike with unlimited funding to create the ultimate race bike and a car with unlimited funding to create the ultimate race car.... Funnily enough they exist - Grand Prix cars and bikes.F1 cars are MUCH faster than the moto GP bikes - why? Traction. Getting the power down in an F1 car you've got 2 huge rear tyres with loads of grip. On a Bike you've got a tiny patch and you've got to contend with the front wheel coming off the ground. In the corners again you've got a much larger contact patch on the car - along with downforce, and on a bike you can't simply change direction - you've got to get onto the other side of the bike and lean the whole bike in - it takes a lot longer."In 2004, Mr V Rossi lapped the Sepang circuit in qualifying for the Malaysian Grand Prix in the very quick time of 2:01 (dry), that’s 2 mins and 1 sec. In the same year a Mr M Schumacher lapped the same circuit in the death defying time of 1 minute and 33seconds. This is a full 75% of the time a motorcycle takes. Or put another way; a F1 car can do 4 laps in the time a MotoGP cycles can do only 3. "With regards to acceleration -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn6eHg1VSZIRoad car vs road bike -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_JsA1DgDhUCars are also fast at top speeds, ref Thrust SSC Cars are faster accelerators, ref drag racing. Cars are faster round circuits, ref F1 v MotoGP timesOn top of all that, when it rains you remin dry, when its cold you remain warm, when you're bored you turn on the radio, when you're hot you turn on the a/c and when you blow away that TVR at the trafficlight grand prix you've got a passenger to silence the non believers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OD404 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Someone hit a nerve Andy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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