Jamie East Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.McMillan Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I have voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 (edited) I wouldn't really take any notice to the poll results, and i certainly wouldn't use them as a deciding factor to what products you'll mae, there just isn't enough options and information, like someone has already mentioned about the hub. And you can already see from the results about the BB hight there's two spikes on the options (10-20 and 50-80) which shows two obvious types of riding, the traditional 24" riders and people who answered yes to your first question respectively.I've been saying for a while now a TGS 24" frame will sell really well, especially since echo have brought out a bunch of 24" components, to date there's no one selling anything but a street 24". My gut tells me pretty much every company is already testing / developing one as I type.Everyone is interested in a frame where you don't have to break the chain, but no one wants to deal with the many drawbacks that this'll bring. They only reason onza experimented with a frame where you could take the chain off without breaking it was because they were wanting to try belt drive. People wouldn't go out of their way to buy a frame that meant they didn't have the break their chain because it isn't a big deal at all. Hence why you're getting mixed votes on that question. Edited November 19, 2009 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 The chain idea is ok... but i would have to take it off my bike in the firstplace to stick it on this frame though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 good to see another company on the scene giving us more to choose from. be interesting to see what ideas you come up withlike someone said the questions are abit vague as there are alot more factors that usually come into account. but i tried to answer the questions assuming all the other factors were ticked.Voted. Have to say though a frame where you don't need to disconnect the chain seems like a bad idea that will end up breaking.how can you make that assumption you've not even seen there design they have in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey-uk Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I've voted, i've never ridden a 24" but to be honest I would love to as, from the videos, they look like such whippy little bikes that are easy to manuver.The hub sounds like an amazing idea, running a king bmx hub atm and it feels amazing, hard to immagine what your hub would be like The chain idea sounds..... Interesting. If it could work it seems amazing but from what I can think (which atm isn't much ) it would compromise too much strength.It's always nice to see a new company and I really hope you're able establish yourself a strong customer base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I voted too! Some good questions there need more info on the hub, ect. Should make for interesting reading of the results me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Voted. :wink2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis-gu Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Sounds kool! i have voted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew C Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Voted, and i really like the chain idea i have seen the onza proto frames with these chainstays and i think it will save alot of hassel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Quigley Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Voted!Just to give some clarification on the hub/price.Hope ProII trials are great and come in at your lowest price bracket, they have a proven reputation.Chris King hubs are also great, and are known for there engineering precision and quality.Both are proven manufacturers in there respective markets and so if you were to release a hub claiming 144 engagements it's build quality and reliability would need to be proven before you could justify a higher price tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David20 Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I voted. Wouldn't mind seeing how the hub would work although, I don't think I'd ever change from my profile... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Clark Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Hub question is a bit silly because I'd much rather have a hub with 36 points that was ultra reliable than one with 144 points that wasn't.TGS 24 is a good idea, not sure why they haven't made one for shorter people who like to ride stock or the people that switch between the two constantly. I know it's traditional to have a streety 24" but I can't think of any reasons why a 24" proper trials bike wouldn't work well.All up for this competition anyway, I'm in the market for a new frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran@ZSClothing Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Shucksmith Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Voted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 "I voted, however you really need to change the poll type to single choice, and you also need to fix the BB rise bit to make it bike-specific. No stock has 100mm BB rise, for example.I'd have a 35-40 rise 24" TGS bike, sure. "I put that in the NMC one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Ohh, i do love custom frames, shame about the price to build them =[. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guantanamo Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Bosh, voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Checked and voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Worth remembering that the only time I (and most others I assume) only remove the chain because it's broken so I'm repairing it, or replacing it with a new one.Both of which circumstances I'd be using a chain tool anyway!I can't see the point, apart from as JT mentioned - if you're experimenting with belt drive.Good on you for thinking though - it'd be great to see some more 'trials' orientated 24" bikes out there for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe O'Connor Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Voted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllTG Posted November 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Just to clear things up about opinions about whether the hub would be reliable or not.I can assure you we have not sacrificed reliability for function. It is the approach we have taken to the design which allows us to use space more effectively. The question is not whether you think it will be reliable or not.It would be appreciated if answers are simply if a hub of quality with those credentials would be something you would be interested in.Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.mitch Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 voted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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