315r Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Hello.I'm just thinking to transform my double cage to simple because the simple reason that a lot of people with more or less level mount simple cage.The question is WHY?More grippy? Less weigh?And the best way to transform are aluminum separators?Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 single cage = less weight, thats about it really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted November 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 single cage = less weight, thats about it reallyOk, that's all? Just for weight?I'm not sure that changing double for simple with aluminium separators the difference will be very different. And for shoes? Maybe the simple cage is more aggressive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.scratchensniff Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) single cage = less weight, thats about it reallyJust the difference I've seen between my double cage and a freind's single, theres a little more grip because there's more pressure on the shoe.Less surface area, more pressure. The second cage supports your foot a bit more and makes it a little flatter on the pedal, making your foot a bit more likely to slip off the pedal.When you have a single, your foot will sag a little into the center of the pedal and give you a little bit for your foot to push against and stop your foot from slipping forward or back. You may find yourself chewing up your shoes a bit more with one cage though...Just my understanding of it... Edited November 17, 2009 by Dr.scratchensniff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Just the difference I've seen between my double cage and a freind's single, theres a little more grip because there's more pressure on the shoe.Less surface area, more pressure. The second cage supports your foot a bit more and makes it a little flatter on the pedal, making your foot a bit more likely to slip off the pedal.When you have a single, your foot will sag a little into the center of the pedal and give you a little bit for your foot to push against and stop your foot from slipping forward or back. You may find yourself chewing up your shoes a bit more with one cage though...Just my understanding of it...Seems about right....Single are definitely a LOT more grippy though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted November 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Seems about right....Single are definitely a LOT more grippy thoughAHA!Therefore in order:Pros:- More grippy.- Less Weigh.Contras:- Aggressive with shoes- Less comfortable.Yes?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Grippier, less weight, and then you've also got the additional bonus of the bolt catching more thread in the pedal body. With the double cage on, it seems like the bolts come loose quite easily 'cos there's not much thread from the bolt getting inside the body - with the inner cage taken out, you get another 1-2mm of thread in there, which should do the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted November 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Grippier, less weight, and then you've also got the additional bonus of the bolt catching more thread in the pedal body. With the double cage on, it seems like the bolts come loose quite easily 'cos there's not much thread from the bolt getting inside the body - with the inner cage taken out, you get another 1-2mm of thread in there, which should do the trick Aha! Thank you!EDIT:Therefore in order:Pros:- More grippy.- Less Weigh.- Makes pedals stronger.Contras:- Aggressive with shoes- Less comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Didn't really notice any kind of difference in terms of comfort to be honest, I wouldn't worry about that. I guess it'll wear your shoes a bit more, but I'd rather have shoes that wear out slightly faster than getting more shin-hits from slippery pedals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted November 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Didn't really notice any kind of difference in terms of comfort to be honest, I wouldn't worry about that. I guess it'll wear your shoes a bit more, but I'd rather have shoes that wear out slightly faster than getting more shin-hits from slippery pedals Nowadays i don't have problems of grip with my double cage.Therefore you recommend me to make my pedals single cage?Remember that since you recommended me a Trialtech bar I believe you very strongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.scratchensniff Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Contras:- Aggressive with shoes- Less comfortable.Don't forget that they'll tear the shit out of your shins a lot worse than double cages if you slip and get your shin into them.You are a lot less likely to slip but if you do, and your leg is in the unfortunate path of the pedal, you're getting torn.I'm making mine singles now though because I'm not really doing anything hardcore enough to slip properly and I've accepted that shin cutting happens, by riding a bike with V8's for a while... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted November 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Don't forget that they'll tear the shit out of your shins a lot worse than double cages if you slip and get your shin into them.You are a lot less likely to slip but if you do, and your leg is in the unfortunate path of the pedal, you're getting torn.I'm making mine singles now though because I'm not really doing anything hardcore enough to slip properly and I've accepted that shin cutting happens, by riding a bike with V8's for a while...Definitely, I left my pedals double cage.......Thank you!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weebryan Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 If you need spacers go to b and q or local hardware store and buy Aluminium Round Tube for like £3 and saw to length and will also do brake booster spacers thats what what i done. b AND Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Nowadays i don't have problems of grip with my double cage.Therefore you recommend me to make my pedals single cage?Remember that since you recommended me a Trialtech bar I believe you very strongly. Just remembered to check this thread! Out of single and double, I'd definitely recommend single. It just seems to work a lot better, and the pros definitely outweigh the cons. If you switch to single and don't like it, it's pretty easy to change back - may as well give it a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Single all the way, used to ride with VPs before MG1s came along, and always took out the inner cage as soon as I got new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315r Posted November 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Yess!REally a lot of people go with single, this is because i'm guessing that is better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 The vast majority of top end caged pedals are all single cage as standard, e.g. the posh Monty ones, the Try-All Superlights... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Also the try-all superlights cages are far superior to the normal double caged ones(different grade metal i think), i havnt bent the cage in any way yet, also because the pedal body its self is so thin it allows the cages to sit further in to the bottom of your shoe increasing the grip as compared with traditional double cage bodys were due to the size of the pedal body your foot would rest on it meaning less force on the cage its self(i think:P), this increases the wear rate of your shoes as stated but it is deffinately worth it also i dont think comfort comes to much into it i feel more comfortable having more grip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Probably worth bearing in mind that if you're a basher they might not be the pedals for you, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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