Greetings Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I think most riders have seen this geo, it's exactly what the Pythons used to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis-gu Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I think 1015 WB 70 BB medium/shortish staysthat my friend, will have you a winner beautiful geo!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablotrial Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 i thinkwb:1035bb: +6cs:360ht: 71.5 would be sweet but i still prefer, by far onza ice's geo, i like high bb and short cs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 (edited) Boring? Have you not seen the new Onza frames? Possibly the best looking frames on the market today...I guess they're like marmite then. Although the ice 2 isn't too bad, and it has a disc mount too!I'm no expert on geos of frames as I've only ridden 5 frames and not had chance to ride others, so i'm a bit clueless when it comes to BB rise headangle ect. But what i can tell you is that if you make a frame with that geo it will sell.It's obvious that CLS has said 'this isn't long enough, make me a longer one', and rightly so as the best of CLS was when he was riding the 04 (correct me if i'm wrong) python frame which was pretty much the longest and most popular frame which always surprised me because usually when you goto those extremes there's only a niche market of people who can get the most out of it. So many people loving that frame shows the demand for frames like that which some people would rather die than ride.Just make sure you don't fall into the trap of trying to keep everyone happy with a less extreme geo, then you're going to just end up with a frame everyone kinda likes but no one will buy as opposed to a frame that the majority of riders hate but the select few that actually do like it actually go out and buy one because no one else is producing a frame like that.i thinkwb:1035bb: +6cs:360ht: 71.5 would be sweet but i still prefer, by far onza ice's geo, i like high bb and short csThis guy is a perfect example of what i'm talking about, he says 1035wb with a +60 bb would be better, even though he said he likes short WB's with high bb's. He's suggesting reducing the WB and raising the bb hight closer to what he likes, however what he's suggested is still miles away from what geo he likes therefor he'd never consider buying a frame with the geo he suggested! Edited November 6, 2009 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted November 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Very logical answer, The green light has been given to make the sample.Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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