Wrayvon Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Its not exactly a full system though is it. Its the most simplest setup ever. I am sure he can work it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Only a CPU Cooler? Isnt that just the same asif it was fan cooled?Well one is a heatsink and fan that cools via air. The other is a heatsink, fan, radiator, pump and pipe system full of liquid.It does say it comes pre-bled and ready to fit but I personally don't see the problem with air cooling. By getting that water CPU cooler you are only removing one fan from the system, and as long as you get a fan that is 4pin and PWM controlled you are barely going to be able to hear it anyway!If you are going to heavily over clock the CPU the water cooling would be a good idea but I am assuming you are not going to be going crazy with over clocking. As long as you get a nice Heatsink and fan and have good airflow through the case air cooling will be fine even with some over clocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam F Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Effectively though you are saying it is better, it will make less noise and it will make it cooler, comes prebled so why get a fan over this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) Effectively though you are saying it is better, it will make less noise and it will make it cooler, comes prebled so why get a fan over this?Much for the same reason I'd look down on someone who bought race spec rims+tyres for their daily driver Read: Completely unnecessary Edited November 2, 2009 by ManxTrialSpaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrayvon Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 For the same price as the TRUE with a decent fan you might as well I would have got one if it was out when I bought mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam F Posted November 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Much for the same reason I'd look down on someone who bought race spec rims+tyres for their daily driver Read: Completely unnecessaryThank you for your input, but it surely it work's abit differently? It will make my CPU Cooler and less quiet, therefore benefitting in more than 1 way.Also, if you do recommend me getting a fan, which one would it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 What monitor are you running this lot on?You can get near identical case's to that for 1/2 the price too. Look at the Lian Li range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Case cooling, go positive air pressure. Have a rear fan expelling air with all other fans sucking air in. Have a read up on it, bloody effective.For anyone wanting dust filters, I suggest you buying these... Quiet PC. They are magnetic so just stick to the side of the case, take no time to clean and look good since they don't poke out loads. Got 2 of the 140mm's on mine in preparation for the 140mm fans when I get some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam F Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Placed my order now, Thanks guys, went for the i7 920, ATi 5870, basically what i posted above.. just gotta wait for its arrival which i assume will be quite long as i had to pre-order the GFX card.Thank's for the help i really appreciate it, as you can tell i would have ordered all the wrong things and not as good spec for my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Oh man if I had to money I would build another one right now, this machine I built last year already looks kinda poo comapred to todays bits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Oh man if I had to money I would build another one right now, this machine I built last year already looks kinda poo comapred to todays bits!Ahhh, but its an endless cycle. It's pretty much certain that you'll build a machine and a month later some immense graphics card or processor will appear out the blue - pretty much why I buy computer magazines so you stay ahead of the market and try to know the best time to start a build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ahhh, but its an endless cycle. It's pretty much certain that you'll build a machine and a month later some immense graphics card or processor will appear out the blue - pretty much why I buy computer magazines so you stay ahead of the market and try to know the best time to start a build.There isn't a best time to start a build really... unless somehow say nvidia or ati is closing down and they start selling all their products at stupidly low prices haha.But yeah, when I first got my GTX260 it was just under £200, after 2 months if I remember correctly they were going for £150 and now about £125 at some places. I don't think I'll be upgrading my system anytime soon though one being I don't have the money and 2 I can still run recent games on high settings hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ahhh, but its an endless cycle. It's pretty much certain that you'll build a machine and a month later some immense graphics card or processor will appear out the blue - pretty much why I buy computer magazines so you stay ahead of the market and try to know the best time to start a build.I was a custom PC subscriber. Cancelled it after 2 years though as the internet is just as good at finding out information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ahhh, but its an endless cycle. It's pretty much certain that you'll build a machine and a month later some immense graphics card or processor will appear out the blue - pretty much why I buy computer magazines so you stay ahead of the market and try to know the best time to start a build.I bought a 140w AMD 965 BE, which was the ultimate best AMD processor a month or so ago. Now there is a 975 125w BE on the horizon, which should make the 4ghz holy grail.Mine's topped out at 3.8ghz. Although, at 3.8ghz it's very fast, and the new 6 cores are coming in Q1 next year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrayvon Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Got my Q9550 to 4.2ghz However had to set it back to 3.9 as my ram didn't like it. (I used different ram for 4.2ghz ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Pah, show-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrayvon Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Hahaha just thought I'd join in since you were bragging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 This is not bragging, they have been known to make over 4:Mine's topped out at 3.8ghz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 There isn't a best time to start a build really... unless somehow say nvidia or ati is closing down and they start selling all their products at stupidly low prices haha.But yeah, when I first got my GTX260 it was just under £200, after 2 months if I remember correctly they were going for £150 and now about £125 at some places. I don't think I'll be upgrading my system anytime soon though one being I don't have the money and 2 I can still run recent games on high settings hehe Meh, I built my current rig a few months ago. About a few months before HD costs fell through the roof and I can buy 1TB for the price I bought my 500GB drive :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam F Posted November 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Success, just built it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Sweet! Did you get the CPU cooler seated nicely and the cables all well managed?A good test to check how well the CPU seated is to watch the temps and see what the difference is between the highest and lowest core temp under load.You going to overclock it straight away or get it all "bedded in" first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Not a dig at anyone, but how often do you get anywhere near maxing out all 4 cores on a 4ghz cpu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 (edited) Surprisingly often! (I'm only at 3.8ghz, but close enough. )Well not every core, but I routinely max out one core, like when converting videos or using programs that only use one core. Anything that takes a while to complete basically, if it's a big task it will use the full speed of the core.Or at least that's how I understand it, from watching mine I'll often see one core at 100% whilst another is below 20%.EDIT: I was just watching mine becuase you mentioned it, core 2 spiked to 100% whilst core 4 spiked to about 30%, and core 1 and 3 stayed at 0%. Edited November 9, 2009 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam F Posted November 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Right, not sure on what program would be good to check temps, so i just gave this a bash and this is what its reading me.. (msn running and steam). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 All seems healthy to me, you need to test it under load though, so every core/thread is running at 100%.Personally I use Prime95 for that, seems to work really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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