Caswell_35 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Hi Guys,Just wondered if anyone could direct me to the best 20" chain tensioners?However i set my backwheel up, My tensioners, However tight i do up my bolts, and however tight i make my chain, my wheel always moves and chain goes slack??!!Im currently running snail cams but they seem Sh*t.All help is appreciatedThanksCaswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I modified a dmr tensioner to fit my gu.Worked really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Echo TR snail cams are a joy to use. I just put some on my bike after running some more heavily notched cams, and these win. Got micro grooves on them so you've got a lot more adjustability than most notched cams, but better holding power than smooths. They're rad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickdonboy Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 that's ace, hard to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 that's ace, hard to do?Little bit of grinding involved, then just bend the tensioner so its a straight bit of metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 That looks a bit sketchy in terms of chain wrap on your rear sprocket - looks like there's only about a third of your sprocket is engaging with your chain, which isn't great for your chain and/or sprocket... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Not to mention the over complication... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Its fine, never skipped on the sprocket, it was mint.Chain wrap was alot better than it looks in the pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Yeah, wasn't thinking necessarily in terms of skipping alone, but if you've got the chain only engaging with, say, 4 teeth compared to a normal chain engaging with 6, each tooth is taking a lot more strain than it would do ordinarily, meaning more stress on your chain. It may not be a problem, but I'm not sure I'd wanna run it. Not to mention I'm a terrible person and I sidehop to the right, meaning that I'd probably dominate anything below chainstay level reasonably quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) Learn to go the correct way and stop mocking my stuff then Sir. Haha. Edited October 29, 2009 by BigAl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Gusset chain tugs are beast! Dont get onza tugs Ive snapped 2 pairs and they always bend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Echo TR snail cams are a joy to use. I just put some on my bike after running some more heavily notched cams, and these win. Got micro grooves on them so you've got a lot more adjustability than most notched cams, but better holding power than smooths. They're rad!I was gonna say, TR's are the best snail cams because of the above mentioned reason AND because they are cro-mo not useless aluminium.On another slightly related note, rockman snail cams are utter garbage, eat your money before you buy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caswell_35 Posted October 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Brilliant thanks guys!Which would you recommend? Gusset or the Echo TR??? they r 2 different types of tensioners surley one must have an advantage?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) Tr. If i remember right the dropouts on a 08 echo lite (assuming your profile is correct) are at an angle like / on the top half and \ on the bottom half, if you get what I mean so you won't be able to use tugs. Edited October 30, 2009 by weirdoku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caswell_35 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Tr. If i remember right the dropouts on a 08 echo lite (assuming your profile is correct) are at an angle like / on the top half and \ on the bottom half, if you get what I mean so you won't be able to use tugs.Correct!! That was going to be my next question!!Echo TR it is then!Cheers Big Ears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Â Tr. If i remember right the dropouts on a 08 echo lite (assuming your profile is correct) are at an angle like / on the top half and \ on the bottom half, if you get what I mean so you won't be able to use tugs.You can still use tugs, just need good ones. However saying that; on my marino I used two washers against the cam bolts (one on each side) to get rid of most of the slack and then used a 74kingz to get rid of the rest. Worked ace, it was like the best of horizontal and the best of vertical dropouts, in the sense that my wheelbase/etc... could be fine tuned and I did not need to use half links or double jockey wheel tensioners, however every time I put the wheel in it was in the same place and it never sliped or changed tensioner. Plus with the use of a sprung tensioner I did not have tightspot problems and with the 74kingz used like this it was almost impossible to catch. Â picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Stick with tr snail cams I'll say, easiest things to use on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caswell_35 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Stick with tr snail cams I'll say, easiest things to use on the planet.Yeh maybe, The biggest gripe i have with snail cams is iv used loads of them and never really had decent tension in my chain as they all keeped moving!But ill give these ones a go and if they dont work then ill try the 74kingz.Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Have you only used the smooth type of snail cams? The TR's knurling means they're pretty win in terms of not slipping round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caswell_35 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Have you only used the smooth type of snail cams? The TR's knurling means they're pretty win in terms of not slipping round No ive never used smooth, sometimes the knotches were too big and i couldnt get the right positioning on the wheel. Well hopefully these will be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 No ive never used smooth, sometimes the knotches were too big and i couldnt get the right positioning on the wheel. Well hopefully these will be ok.I've used monty, zhi and 2 pairs of trialtech snail cams and they all ended up in the bin cos they just eventually got crushed. Each pair becoming unusable in about 2 months, I've these echo ones for over 3 months now and they show no signs of damage, well except for the bit where I landed on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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