RossTrials Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Thinking of getting an Avid Ultimate v brake for my stock is the bite/hole as good as my hope mono disc?i saw ali c was using them in his london video, weather or not they were avid ultimates i dont know but they seemed to hold very well.cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan_echo26 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I really depends more on the pads.Personally I think Avid Ultimate is way overpriced.. But i have never used them so I could be wrong.I ordered Shimano Deore vee's a couple of days ago. I got the calipers for both the front and back for £30.I haven't got them yet but they should be fine Does Ali C not use Shimano XT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2wtrials Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 (edited) One of our riding mates, Ben, was using them for ages... and they were brilliant. Make sure you use good cable inner and outer seems to be the main thing.... and i believe he may still have them for sale!! Edited October 26, 2009 by r2wtrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I used a SD7, which was faultless. My set up wasnt the best but it really did out perform Maggy. I had trouble setting thgem up right in my frame with usin a wide rim. I had a SD3 before that, wasnt much cop. fell apart on me a few times on a ride. The tension screws rounded off, as they were only philips. and sd7 were allen keys. But lil things like that make a difference I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gage-mann Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 dont know but mine on the front with the vee rock blues from tarty worked stupidly good and the sd7 lever i have is much more nicer than the ultimate my friend has but i think you get more adjustment on the speed dial thingdanny swindle use's sd7 arms and there rarther good too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 If i could round Ultimates up in 3 words, it'd be...Worth.Every.Penny. I found that the SD7's flexed a bit, which is nice if you like a bit of modulation, but as the Ultimates are CNC, theres no flex, making them hold like a beast.One of the best brake set-ups i have ever used, SD7 lever, shadow linier slick cable, ultimate arms and phat pads in CNC vee backings.Was the bomb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Mine worked a damn treat, just got a lil tired and old and frankly fancied a change to a maggy.... shall be going back on the new bike though decent cable inner/outer is essential though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Love mine, wouldn't want to run anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I love mine too, can't fault them. Getting rid of 'em is going to be hard When i build the Leeson up again for the tour next year, i'm definitely gonna get another set, can't imagine running anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossTrials Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Cheers everyone definatly getting some now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladie Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 One of the best brake set-ups i have ever used, SD7 lever, shadow linier slick cable, ultimate arms and phat pads in CNC vee backings.Was the bomb!Fecking was mate Still don't know why you went double disc .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGAN Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 any avid vee with good pads and a good setup will bite and hold like a bitch weather or not ultimates are any better i dont know iv'e never owned one. but, my 20 quid vee with inspired pads on smooth is epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nek0 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 They say the newer ones are crap. Then again you can get Shimano XTR v-levers on the cheap and they are amazingly good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 personally I don't think the ultimate arms perform any better than any other arms. Infact, I always found the bearings go notchy and then its hard to dial in the arms so they move at the same time.I recommend shimano arms if your setup needs more clearance, or the Avid sd7 if you have room. Attach that to an SD7 lever (they have a good speed dial adjustment rather than XTRs crap version). Some Shimano SP5 cable and some tnn LGV pads. Oh, a booster helps LOADS for hold, if you havnt got a booster on TRY IT, your brake will be 50X better at holding with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossTrials Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 personally I don't think the ultimate arms perform any better than any other arms. Infact, I always found the bearings go notchy and then its hard to dial in the arms so they move at the same time.I recommend shimano arms if your setup needs more clearance, or the Avid sd7 if you have room. Attach that to an SD7 lever (they have a good speed dial adjustment rather than XTRs crap version). Some Shimano SP5 cable and some tnn LGV pads. Oh, a booster helps LOADS for hold, if you havnt got a booster on TRY IT, your brake will be 50X better at holding with one.do tarty sell any forms of cable for vee's? if not do you know where i can hold of some SP5 cable.cheers mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan_echo26 Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 do tarty sell any forms of cable for vee's? if not do you know where i can hold of some SP5 cable.cheers mateThe only vee cables that tarty sell are made by Carks. They seem quite good to me but more expensive cables probably would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 well, we actually have some SP5 cable, its sold by the meter (like magura hose) its pretty new in so not on the site yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 personally I don't think the ultimate arms perform any better than any other arms. Infact, I always found the bearings go notchy and then its hard to dial in the arms so they move at the same time.I recommend shimano arms if your setup needs more clearance, or the Avid sd7 if you have room. Attach that to an SD7 lever (they have a good speed dial adjustment rather than XTRs crap version). Some Shimano SP5 cable and some tnn LGV pads. Oh, a booster helps LOADS for hold, if you havnt got a booster on TRY IT, your brake will be 50X better at holding with one.he speaks the truth, no need to waste your money on ultimates, ive used both the shimano and sd7 arms and there both brilliant. as ali said a booster is the key it makes one hell of a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossTrials Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I cannie seem to find TNN LGV pads are they the ones on tarty beacuase they say CRMthanks for info on cable will be buying some couple weeks so hope its on tarty by thenThanks for your helpI cannie seem to find TNN LGV pads are they the ones on tarty beacuase they say CRMIgnore, Found em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 personally I don't think the ultimate arms perform any better than any other arms. Infact, I always found the bearings go notchy and then its hard to dial in the arms so they move at the same time.I recommend shimano arms if your setup needs more clearance, or the Avid sd7 if you have room. Attach that to an SD7 lever (they have a good speed dial adjustment rather than XTRs crap version). Some Shimano SP5 cable and some tnn LGV pads. Oh, a booster helps LOADS for hold, if you havnt got a booster on TRY IT, your brake will be 50X better at holding with one.+100000... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I don't think I'd run anything other than a good vee now. My Ultimates are incredible, so easy to setup and perform really, really well with sweet FA in the way of maintenance. Bit pricey, but I picked up the pair for less than £50 so that's not really an issue...There are some great vees out there, priced for a range of different budgets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossTrials Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I don't think I'd run anything other than a good vee now. My Ultimates are incredible, so easy to setup and perform really, really well with sweet FA in the way of maintenance. Bit pricey, but I picked up the pair for less than £50 so that's not really an issue...There are some great vees out there, priced for a range of different budgets. I was just wondering what makes Ultimates the price they are? CNC?i would like to set my v brakes up perfectly beacause im getting them over a disc and want them to work a treat.the set up ali said earlier looks like its gonna cost a penny short of 40 quid. ultimates are 90 somthing just for arms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan_echo26 Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Yeh I think its £92 for the arms and the same again for the levers.Way overpriced. I recently got Shimano Deore arms and avid FR5 levers. So far I'm very pleased with them. They are easy to set up, don't seem to flex too much (my frame does though) and they feel nice and quick too even with clarks cables from Tarty which are relatively cheap compared to some others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 They were £70 arms/levers, though they appear to have gone up to £80+. Like I said though, I paid less than £50 for a pair of them second hand in new condition so look around.Had to replace the bearings in one arm after the previous owner mashed them - cost £4 for twice as many bearings as were needed and was an easy 10 minute job (though I know Ali C had issues before, so might be worth looking into why for a bit more detail) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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