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Do you get people who specialise in some martial art more, or is everyone pretty much a kickboxer-BJJ fighter?

they pretty much all have a "specialty" or a weapon of choice(which can change sometimes)

but they have to be good at anything else to win though

some are specialist at severall things aswell.

example: a wrestling speciallist needs to be a good boxer and a good bjj aswell, at least defensively

he needs to knows head movements to escape punches. he also needs to know how to defends submissons.

a stricker needs to defend the takedowns if he wants to keep the fight standing

back in the days there was some fights like boxer vs bjj guy, or wrestler vs kickboxer etc

but nowadays they are all well rounded.

What's great is they somehow still have their own style

let's face it, you would need to live a least 4 lifes to master boxing,bjj,kick boxing, wrestling,judo, karate etc :D

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Yeah, from what I'm seeing and reading, certain martial arts take to sport better than others. Some stuff like Wing Chun or JKD specialise in vital point strikes. Even traditional style Karate is like that, which is illegal in MMA fights.

I definitely agree about needing to branch out. Even from a real life point of view, you need to have your back covered if someone wants to get their hands on you.

I can definitely say this from some experience sparring with a mate - you might know how to make a rock solid stance but if some dude can pick you up off the floor, it doesn't mean shit.

Just watched that first video, so that's where that legendary kick is from!

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Yeah, from what I'm seeing and reading, certain martial arts take to sport better than others. Some stuff like Wing Chun or JKD specialise in vital point strikes. Even traditional style Karate is like that, which is illegal in MMA fights.

I definitely agree about needing to branch out. Even from a real life point of view, you need to have your back covered if someone wants to get their hands on you.

I can definitely say this from some experience sparring with a mate - you might know how to make a rock solid stance but if some dude can pick you up off the floor, it doesn't mean shit.

Just watched that first video, so that's where that legendary kick is from!

the most common martial arts are wrestling, boxing, kickoxing, bjj and muay thai. There is some very good karate guy like george st pierre and lyoto machida.

There's also a few other martial art like tae kwan do, capoeira and jkd but only for particular kicks and stuffs

The thing is, even if mma isn't at all a real street fight, it's the sport that is the closest to it. so by all means you need to be good at everything, and you need to be very efficient.

I agree about boxing, take mike tyson at his prime, on his feet he's gonna punch you to death but you put him on the floor and he can't hurt you anymore,

yeah the famous kick... there was a rematch between those two a few days ago, it was crazy.

edit: what sport did you do? boxing?

@chimpanzyyyy did you watch ultimate fighter (rousey v tate) the other night?

some good characters in there, a english guy was fighting like a maniac!

no, I didn't

I watched the pervious season with Uriah Hall. there was some cool fights, but the show in it's whole was a bit too dramatic :D

I d rather watch a cool documentary about bas rutten or rickson gracie to be fair :D

even if I do not mind watching Tate :D

what's the name of the UK fighter?

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the most common martial arts are wrestling, boxing, kickoxing, bjj and muay thai. There is some very good karate guy like george st pierre and lyoto machida.

There's also a few other martial art like tae kwan do, capoeira and jkd but only for particular kicks and stuffs

The thing is, even if mma isn't at all a real street fight, it's the sport that is the closest to it. so by all means you need to be good at everything, and you need to be very efficient.

I agree about boxing, take mike tyson at his prime, on his feet he's gonna punch you to death but you put him on the floor and he can't hurt you anymore,

yeah the famous kick... there was a rematch between those two a few days ago, it was crazy.

edit: what sport did you do? boxing?

I do Karate.

I find that if you take an objectional view to it all, that's best.

It's funny in a way, if you look at some old Karate books, by the old Okinawan masters, they essentially mention that martial arts should absorb the best parts of other martial arts.

In fact if you look at Karate, if you take into account all of the styles of karate, and even within single styles, there's potential for huge variety, including real hard punching and kicking, elbow attacks, some jujutsu style locks and throws, and even some of the more fancy looking kung fu moves.

MMA is good for the future of martial arts. Perhaps not so much for the purposes of self defence, but the idea of mixing it up is definitely a healthy approach.

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I do Karate.

I find that if you take an objectional view to it all, that's best.

It's funny in a way, if you look at some old Karate books, by the old Okinawan masters, they essentially mention that martial arts should absorb the best parts of other martial arts.

In fact if you look at Karate, if you take into account all of the styles of karate, and even within single styles, there's potential for huge variety, including real hard punching and kicking, elbow attacks, some jujutsu style locks and throws, and even some of the more fancy looking kung fu moves.

MMA is good for the future of martial arts. Perhaps not so much for the purposes of self defence, but the idea of mixing it up is definitely a healthy approach.

I didn't know that about karate, that's very good to know

you should check on Lyoto Machida, is a crazy MMA fighter (and a former high level karate guy)

machida-ko-kick-couture.gif

I think mma cand be a very good self defense technique, as long as you forget a few rule like not kicking in the balls and no eye poke.

Since it's ment to be the most efficient technique, you can't go wrong with it.

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I didn't know that about karate, that's very good to know

you should check on Lyoto Machida, is a crazy MMA fighter (and a former high level karate guy)

machida-ko-kick-couture.gif

I think mma cand be a very good self defense technique, as long as you forget a few rule like not kicking in the balls and no eye poke.

Since it's ment to be the most efficient technique, you can't go wrong with it.

I'll watch out for that dude!

It's funny about Karate really, some people have this view about it that it's a very long range punching and kicking art, but if you look at other styles, or even the teachings of Funakoshi, the guy who formed Shotokan, there's grappling in it. The real shame is that some of the people who are teaching it have the view that it's all long range stuff.

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One of the best fights ever.

yeah legendary stuff

the thing is,

Shogun was for sure the best light heavyweight in the world in pride

because he was fast,aggressive and f**kin lethal

He has lost all of this in the ufc because of his f**ked up knees

but the dude is such a warrior, he was just destroyed by hendo and didn't give up

he even came back and almost finished him.

love this dude sooo much

did you see the maynard/edgar fights? it's the same kind of epic fights

edgar has so much heart!

And of course...

will watch this one for sure, never have before

I'll watch out for that dude!

It's funny about Karate really, some people have this view about it that it's a very long range punching and kicking art, but if you look at other styles, or even the teachings of Funakoshi, the guy who formed Shotokan, there's grappling in it. The real shame is that some of the people who are teaching it have the view that it's all long range stuff.

That's what I thought aswell :D

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Yeah Shogun was the best, I've got the 2005 Pride MW GP on dvd where he murdered everyone. So I almost cried when Chael submitted Shogun the other week. He's better than that.

I watched the Edgar vs Maynard fights yeah, I just can't like Edgar, don't know why, I was hoping Maynard would win but meh! Good fights anyway.

Yeah Fedor vs Rogers was epic, especially being his Strikeforce debut/ expectations/ what happened etc, he never disappoints.

Couture vs Noguiera is brilliant too, whole fight was a highlight reel.

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Yeah Shogun was the best, I've got the 2005 Pride MW GP on dvd where he murdered everyone. So I almost cried when Chael submitted Shogun the other week. He's better than that.

I watched the Edgar vs Maynard fights yeah, I just can't like Edgar, don't know why, I was hoping Maynard would win but meh! Good fights anyway.

Yeah Fedor vs Rogers was epic, especially being his Strikeforce debut/ expectations/ what happened etc, he never disappoints.

Couture vs Noguiera is brilliant too, whole fight was a highlight reel.

I knew it was about to happen with Chael

He is sooo agressive as a fighter, always on you face with his crazy cardio

bad match up for nowadays shogun

I was sad too :(

I ll watch the couture noguiera ;)

Not really no, obviously HD it if it's an option but mine seem ok.

Watch Wanderlei Silva vs Brian Stann if you can find a decent recording.

Modern classic.

I ll watch this one aswell, seems like a total war :dance:

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I watched the Machida-Evans fight, that was cool. It's good to see Karate has some place in this.

I watched some world tournament Karate fights yesterday but it's not very exciting, they're just skipping about waving their hands, there's not much action. It's good that Machida made the transition from that points-based stuff to this serious stuff well.

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I watched the Machida-Evans fight, that was cool. It's good to see Karate has some place in this.

I watched some world tournament Karate fights yesterday but it's not very exciting, they're just skipping about waving their hands, there's not much action. It's good that Machida made the transition from that points-based stuff to this serious stuff well.

yeah this one is good

I like Machida

Seems like he could drop a wheight class in a near future

means he's gonna move even faster :)

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Pretty much, but there was no real conditioning/fitness back then, apart from Vitor it was nowhere near todays level (he obviously had some help, no one looks like that at 19)

People weren't well rounded, the Gracies (Brazilian Jiu jitsu) couldn't really strike for shit, and a lot of strikers had no ground game, the wrestlers couldn't do much unless they got on top of you. Everyone has a bit of everything these days.

Look up some of Vitor Belforts old ufc fights.

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