trialsmax04 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 my echo free hub has now skipped 5times in the last hour. It seams the harder i push it the more it wants to give up on me. My question is am i better off with a ffw and fixed hub combo? I would be on a strict budget, so i have been looking at the trialtech race on tarty. Any one tried these, and are they any good?Also id need a ffw to go with it. My wallet tells me to go for an ACS Claw but i have heard horror storys about them. What would be a good budget free wheel? Is it also a sensible idea for me to get one second hand?If i do this i will probably lace the wheel up myself. I have never tried it before, so is it wise i attempt it? Im fairly confident with mechanics ect.Cheers fir help,Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossMcd Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 If you can get the welded version of the ACS you shouldnt really have much of a problem. Thats what I was running back when I first started and it was fine up until I got a new bike. Never skipped or anything If your on a budget get one.. However If you can stretch as far as getting a tensile or an echo TR get one And Building a wheel you should have no problems if you follow the guide on the wiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 cheers ross, just what i was hoping to hear! Is it the welded version on tarty? And do i need ay special tools to fit a free wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 cheers ross, just what i was hoping to hear! Is it the welded version on tarty? And do i need ay special tools to fit a free wheel?Buy a tensiule off me...and ask me for help building wheel when im in ply next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 pm'd big boy...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 any one got any advice on hubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Anything fixed really, they're all pretty much similar as there are no engagements/small moving parts to go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 yea thought so. The trialtech race will probably be the one. Although it runs on open bearings. I cant decide wether it would be good or bad. My echo freehub runs on sealed bearings and there expensive to replace and dont last too long.... I can see the pro's and con's of each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 yea thought so. The trialtech race will probably be the one. Although it runs on open bearings. I cant decide wether it would be good or bad. My echo freehub runs on sealed bearings and there expensive to replace and dont last too long.... I can see the pro's and con's of each.DO NOT GET OPEN BEARING HUBS!!!Sorry about that, open bearing are shit and will most likely break (with some exceptions in the form of the higher end shimano stuff, etc...). Also they are not nearly as smooth as sealed bearings, need more maintenance and are structurally weaker. Also I had a problem with the ACS on my bmx, where the outer ring was not very round, so dragged round the lockring, but that may just be the smaller thread ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 yea thought so. The trialtech race will probably be the one. Although it runs on open bearings. I cant decide wether it would be good or bad. My echo freehub runs on sealed bearings and there expensive to replace and dont last too long.... I can see the pro's and con's of each.As a general rule (from my experience, anyway) Echo sealed bearings are pretty shit - mine seized almost completely after 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 DO NOT GET OPEN BEARING HUBS!!!Sorry about that, open bearing are shit and will most likely break (with some exceptions in the form of the higher end shimano stuff, etc...). Also they are not nearly as smooth as sealed bearings, need more maintenance and are structurally weaker. Also I had a problem with the ACS on my bmx, where the outer ring was not very round, so dragged round the lockring, but that may just be the smaller thread ones. Ahh not what i wanted to hear! In which case i could probably strech to a sealed onza t-master hub. Are thease any good? Really wanted to stay away from onza but if there good...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncy H Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 I rode with the open bearing trialtech hub for quite a while with no problems. It was a bit tedeous having to keep the cones at the right point though. If you are on a budget though it is ideal however given the chance i would ride with sealed bearings.Get the trialtech and save some more money ready for your evo!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 I rode with the open bearing trialtech hub for quite a while with no problems. It was a bit tedeous having to keep the cones at the right point though. If you are on a budget though it is ideal however given the chance i would ride with sealed bearings.Get the trialtech and save some more money ready for your evo!!!! haha legend! Defo need more money for that! So damn expensive. Is it you i have on my contacts on msn dauncy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncy H Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 haha legend! Defo need more money for that! So damn expensive. Is it you i have on my contacts on msn dauncy?I don't think so, should get new sherco in stead if the evo though like me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! Evo all the way man, ride soo much nicer. But blody expensive.anyhow, trialtech open or onza sealed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncy H Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 I vote trialtech The onza ones i have used died rather quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 DO NOT GET OPEN BEARING HUBS!!!Sorry about that, open bearing are shit and will most likely break (with some exceptions in the form of the higher end shimano stuff, etc...). Also they are not nearly as smooth as sealed bearings, need more maintenance and are structurally weaker. Also I had a problem with the ACS on my bmx, where the outer ring was not very round, so dragged round the lockring, but that may just be the smaller thread ones. Technically a loose ball hub is the better, because it's better quality for your money, but the way it puts the load on the bearings is much less harsh than a cartridge bearing hub, it runs off the 2 o clock and 7 o clock axis rather than directly down (hard to explain) but yeah, cartidge hubs, because the way they're made allow a bigger stronger axle etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale-Hill Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 DO NOT GET OPEN BEARING HUBS!!!QFTAhh not what i wanted to hear! In which case i could probably strech to a sealed onza t-master hub. Are thease any good? Really wanted to stay away from onza but if there good......mine was fine? there is nothign to go wrong on them as it's all on the freewheel mainly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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