Drivechain Idea

[TROYston]

I just cant be bothered with coming up with just an idea and getting ripped for it, so rather than trying to argue its easier to close the topic.

[bigamac]

I just cant be bothered with coming up with just an idea and getting ripped for it, so rather than trying to argue its easier to close the topic.

Well think of the pros and con's before you post it.

This is a public forum, you'll get ripped for anything if anyone wanted.

Now shouldn't you be at school?

[tris]

its kinda like saying 'put another stem on your bike so if one breaks you'll be fine', or 'put 2 brakes on the back of your bike incase one fails'.

Just pointless. I think wear shin and knee pads would solve most of the problems with chains snapping and jumping........

[TROYston]

Well think of the pros and con's before you post it.

This is a public forum, you'll get ripped for anything if anyone wanted.

Now shouldn't you be at school?

True, and no 6form has finisher today, had to get up at 9:30 and go for an hour.

its kinda like saying 'put another stem on your bike so if one breaks you'll be fine', or 'put 2 brakes on the back of your bike incase one fails'.

Just pointless. I think wear shin and knee pads would solve most of the problems with chains snapping and jumping........

Didn't think of it like that so good point.

I need to get me some shin pads thinking about it.

[BringThatShtIn]

Well think of the pros and con's before you post it.

This is a public forum, you'll get ripped for anything if anyone wanted.

Now shouldn't you be at school?

The whole idea of a forum is so people can give advice to other people ABOUT pros and cons. Otherwise nobody would ever post anything.

One guy: 'Should I get a trialtech booster or a neon booster?'

Another guy: 'THINK ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH. DON'T BOTHER ASKING US CUZ WE'LL JUST RIP YOU.'

That's just gay.

[bigamac]

The whole idea of a forum is so people can give advice to other people ABOUT pros and cons. Otherwise nobody would ever post anything.

One guy: 'Should I get a trialtech booster or a neon booster?'

Another guy: 'THINK ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH. DON'T BOTHER ASKING US CUZ WE'LL JUST RIP YOU.'

That's just gay.

No, I'm not saying that.

but "should i add an extra chain, freewheel and sprocket to add extra weight cause more problems than im solving? when i could just wear shin pads"

some questions are pointless.

[BringThatShtIn]

No, I'm not saying that.

but "should i add an extra chain, freewheel and sprocket to add extra weight cause more problems than im solving? when i could just wear shin pads"

Well say that, rather than ripping him for a question he was interested in. Why don't you just tell him the pros and cons instead. It's no extra effort on your part.

By the way, I don't want to start a fight lol, I did that last time and it pissed everybody off, including myself =(

[TROYston]

I Just thorght it was a good idea due to seeing quite a few chain snapping videos.

TF is a community , i posted in the members section so only members could awnser my question, not the general public.

I still am going to try this idea, and if it fails,, hey at least i tried it.

[Revolver]

It won't work.

It's a bad idea. If it was a good idea, it would be in production already. Thought about it that way? Obviously not.

[Ben John-Hynes]

i know i should buy a new chain but the bike is a ashed and would rather wait till it snaps and then get a new chain

No, no you wouldn't. Well, shouldn't.

I am a chav actually that's why i have long hair and listen to ever type of music and mainly love jungle , and old school hip-hop lol oh and *used to be* a punx, so yer :L.

Lol. Don't even start me on that!

Edited October 16, 2009 by Ben John-Hynes

[Jason222]

Wouldn't you have to remake the freewheel design? wouldn't a regular freewheel engage instead of freewheeling when its on backwards?

[TROYston]

Why not ben,

I have been into many a type of mmusic, then used to be punx, not punk, and then moved to burton and now just love every type of music and dont give a shit how i dress to be honest, but love nike 6.0 obz, as a ex bmxer.

Yes ok you all think its a bad idea, thats why i posted the topic to ask if it was a good idea or bad idea.

[Revolver]

Yes ok you all think its a bad idea, thats why i posted the topic to ask if it was a good idea or bad idea.

Ok.

However you don't ask someone's advice, and then tell them they're wrong and do it anyway.

[TROYston]

Ok.

However you don't ask someone's advice, and then tell them they're wrong and do it anyway.

After Everyone was bolloking me for asking and then they did not give a legit reason, not just it will be too heavy.

[Revolver]

Some reasons -

It will be heavy

It won't engage at the same time as the other one

It will be expensive, compared to just getting a new chain and freewheel for a traditional setup

You'll need a hub that can take a sprocket on either side without unwinding - not going to happen

You'll need to stop the FFW unwinding from the crank arm on the left side

You'll need to stop the pedal from unwinding on the left side, because you'll have to get another driveside crank for that

You'll need to buy another set of cranks so you've got two driveside cranks.

[TROYston]

Some reasons -

It will be heavy

It won't engage at the same time as the other one

It will be expensive, compared to just getting a new chain and freewheel for a traditional setup

You'll need a hub that can take a sprocket on either side without unwinding - not going to happen

You'll need to stop the FFW unwinding from the crank arm on the left side

You'll need to stop the pedal from unwinding on the left side, because you'll have to get another driveside crank for that

You'll need to buy another set of cranks so you've got two driveside cranks.

ill awnser it in numbers put it to your questons.

1-i dont care, a extra fw+chain+sproket isnt heavy

2-but it will still pick up so and save you

3-true

4-weld it on, problem sorted

5-lhd asc, or possible get an eno and swap the core around?

6-i have lhd cranks on my dj and never hard that problem neither has my mate, i ride this bike everyday

7-i have a spare, and other people might not, but normal cranks do have the room for this on the non drive side, so could easily be achived.

Would it be possible to get a right hand thread on the left hand crank? it is left hand thread on a rear of the hub, so it would just be opposite on the other side?

[Revolver]

ill awnser it in numbers put it to your questons.

1-i dont care, a extra fw+chain+sproket isnt heavy

2-but it will still pick up so and save you

3-true

4-weld it on, problem sorted

5-lhd asc, or possible get an eno and swap the core around?

6-i have lhd cranks on my dj and never hard that problem neither has my mate, i ride this bike everyday

7-i have a spare, and other people might not, but normal cranks do have the room for this on the non drive side, so could easily be achived.

Would it be possible to get a right hand thread on the left hand crank? it is left hand thread on a rear of the hub, so it would just be opposite on the other side?

1 - it is.

2 - how likely do you really think a freewheel is to skip? And when they do skip, are you aware that they simply move onto the next EP, meaning you get reduced power, not no power, so in many cases you don't end up on your teeth?

4 - whatever, not really clever

5 - you're on about buying a whole LHD system, complete with ACS, when the money spent could buy a freewheel that won't skip, unlike an ACS?

6 - if they're actually LHD cranks, then the pedal thread's going to be in the right way, isn't it?

7 - you say normal cranks have the room for this on the non-driveside. So where exactly are you planning on putting the freewheel? There's no thread there.

[TROYston]

1 - it is.

2 - how likely do you really think a freewheel is to skip? And when they do skip, are you aware that they simply move onto the next EP, meaning you get reduced power, not no power, so in many cases you don't end up on your teeth?

4 - whatever, not really clever

5 - you're on about buying a whole LHD system, complete with ACS, when the money spent could buy a freewheel that won't skip, unlike an ACS?

6 - if they're actually LHD cranks, then the pedal thread's going to be in the right way, isn't it?

7 - you say normal cranks have the room for this on the non-driveside. So where exactly are you planning on putting the freewheel? There's no thread there.

1-lol

2-i have i try-all, maby due to the lack of trust, im thinking about this?

4-Will work though

5-its £12 or somthing silly for a LHD acs

6-I mean that in that i am running RHD set-up with a LHD crank

7-there is the lip, on the magority of screwon cranks, on the non drive side.

[N.Wood]

f**k me... Right, TROYston, go and try it. If it works (it won't) then thats great.

But take it from more experienced members, it WON'T work. We're not bollocking you, we're letting you know that it won't work.

[TROYston]

Please, call me Troy.

[N.Wood]

Troy, we're trying to save your teeth, time, energy and money. It won't work.

[TROYston]

Troy, we're trying to save your teeth, time, energy and money. It won't work.

Ok mate ill give up on the idea.

[Revolver]

Ok mate ill give up on the idea.

You have made the right decision.

[Ben John-Hynes]

After Everyone was bolloking me for asking and then they did not give a legit reason, not just it will be too heavy.

Some reasons -

It will be heavy

It won\'t engage at the same time as the other one

It will be expensive, compared to just getting a new chain and freewheel for a traditional setup

You\'ll need a hub that can take a sprocket on either side without unwinding - not going to happen

You\'ll need to stop the FFW unwinding from the crank arm on the left side

You\'ll need to stop the pedal from unwinding on the left side, because you\'ll have to get another driveside crank for that

You\'ll need to buy another set of cranks so you\'ve got two driveside cranks.

ill awnser it in numbers put it to your questons.

1-i dont care, a extra fw+chain+sproket isnt heavy

2-but it will still pick up so and save you

3-true

4-weld it on, problem sorted

5-lhd asc, or possible get an eno and swap the core around?

6-i have lhd cranks on my dj and never hard that problem neither has my mate, i ride this bike everyday

7-i have a spare, and other people might not, but normal cranks do have the room for this on the non drive side, so could easily be achived.

Would it be possible to get a right hand thread on the left hand crank? it is left hand thread on a rear of the hub, so it would just be opposite on the other side?

Edited October 16, 2009 by Ben John-Hynes

[Mark W]

After Everyone was bolloking me for asking and then they did not give a legit reason, not just it will be too heavy.

I gave you a good few reasons, but again, the key one is that after the first hub skips/chain snaps/freewheel breaks, there'll be a gap between the other system actually engaging (assuming that that system doesn't break/skip itself). That gap means you'll still be f**ked, and will have the same problem as you'd have if your chain snapped or freewheel broke. As soon as the power goes, you'll start going over the bars, and there won't be time for you to somehow re-kick that gap or drop. You'd still be totally f**ked. It will not do anything other than be redundant for 99% of the time, and for the other 1% it'll be too late anyway. Just spend that money you're going to spend on that on a new chain for your bike now. A Trialtech Lite is £12, and then a quid or so postage. That's not much, and less than the money you'd spend on that system. If you're as genuinely worried about freewheel/chain/hub death as you appear to be by wanting to build a new drive system, I don't understand why you wouldn't replace your chain as a massive step forward to having a reliable drive-train.