hoots man Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 i should have asked this before i done it but has anyone had there spokes snow flaked? if so were they strong enough or just crap.thankshoots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 What's snow flaking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the trials mop Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2156/203501..._778871d0b7.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoots man Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 an arrangement of the spokes where they are twisted around each other to give an interesting build, looks a little like a snow flake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale-Hill Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 It'd be too weak i'd imagine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Winton. Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 my mate does it at there bike shop, apparently it is very strong and very stiff.thats all i know really, cant say i would use it for trials though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoots man Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2156/203501..._778871d0b7.jpgthats the one. it looks stronger on a 26 with less twists though.i think it may need to bed in a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I think it looks pretty RAD, but I'd not do it, it doesn't look like you'd get great tension, and it means bending spokes badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Looks trick, but is shit as feck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHKW Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Wow i did not even know that you could do this kind of things to the wheel ... Is there any other funny things you could do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoots man Posted October 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 think i will just re-lace 3 cross if a spoke goes. so far so good though, night ride tonight and am going to put it through its paces.Wow i did not even know that you could do this kind of things to the wheel ... Is there any other funny things you could do?you can mix up the lacing like a flake and radial on one wheel. there must be more but best thing to to is have a look on google images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Looks trick, but is shit as feck.I was thinking the same thing, maybe ok for a frontwheel build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 be a bitch to true the wheel cause you won't get the same lateral pull on the wheel if all the spokes are wrapped around eachother they'll be in the middle of the rim? (i know what i mean in my head hahah) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Yeah hense the reason of using a Mavic rim. doing that lace on a trials specific rim will be pain-stakingly tricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Winton. Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I think it looks pretty RAD, but I'd not do it, it doesn't look like you'd get great tension, and it means bending spokes badly.you heat the spokes first, which stops em getting wrecked in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 You don't even need to heat the spokes - they'll still see higher stress at the hub flange and the threaded end than they'll see where they're wrapped around each other. Just stress relieve after building and it will be reliable. Working out the spoke length you need will be the really interesting part though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 A wee site to help I would sayhttp://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 my mate does it at there bike shop, apparently it is very strong and very stiff.thats all i know really, cant say i would use it for trials thoughTry running one with a disk..............oh yes their uber strong...................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Winton. Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Try running one with a disk..............oh yes their uber strong......................They use them for roadies on fixies, hence why i said i woudlnt use one for trials... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2wtrials Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 so how do you work out what spoke length you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Wood Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 a few old schoolers round near me have this on there front wheels... looks pretty swiwsh, and theres is still going strong after 4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoots man Posted October 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 so how do you work out what spoke length you need?u +2mmso guys, after a good old ride i have decided that flake is not the best choice. i feel it flex doing gap to front switch to backs and the fact that having my front laced like that makes concentration while doing stuff focus slightly on "is my wheel going to handle this". it looks trip but if it was the way to go we would all be doing it. my wheel came out of true a few time tonight and was fixed by hitting the rim with my hands, goes to show that its not too strong.going to keep it for a few days just to see if it beds in but i think it may be a load of old shrivelled bollox. thanks for your posts guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) I rode a guys mod a little while ago. Was crazy spoke patterns.Front disc side - 3xFront driveside - snowflakeRear disc side - snowflake (edit - not a rear disc used though)Rear driveside - 3xLooked cool as f**k, and didn't feel too bad. My wheels are generally a bit loosely built though, so I guess that's not a fair test He's been running it for ages. 18 months ish. Edited October 3, 2009 by aener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoots man Posted October 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 I rode a guys mod a little while ago. Was crazy spoke patterns.Front disc side - 3xFront driveside - snowflakeRear disc side - snowflake (edit - not a rear disc used though)Rear driveside - 3xLooked cool as f**k, and didn't feel too bad. My wheels are generally a bit loosely built though, so I guess that's not a fair test He's been running it for ages. 18 months ish.that sounds cool but i think the smaller the wheel the stronger the build. Maybe 3 cross one side (disc) and snow flake the other could be stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitbat Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 I used to have a Hope Big 'un with Snowflake laced spokes It was uber strong but I noticed it came loose much more than standard 3cross lacing. As long as you keep an eye on it and tighten them up every so often you'll be fineFrooty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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