Muel Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 YOU LIE! Rubber queens are the best tyre ever! It's the carbon nano particles, they stick like glue.I've heard the Rain Kings are amazing, I'd like to try one but unfortunately they cost over £50, which is rediculous for a tyre.Ali, didn't I buy my Rubber Queen from you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted December 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 sure did! you see, the problem is you havn't tried a rain king yet, they are honestly in another league! I thought the rubber queen gripped slightly worse than a maxxis (which the duro test backed up). the rain king just grips to anything, when you pick your bike up you can see they are actually stuck to the floor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Yep, I'll back all that up...Ali and myself should get some kinda royalties from Conti, the amount of Rain Kings/DKs sold because of us must be mad good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Meh I hardly ride, and when i do I just spin round now, so they probably wouldn't be a good tyre for me.Maybe I should swap my Simtra for an Inspired, gotta blag a go on my mates first though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Shaw Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Rain Kings & Der Kaisers are worth every penny they cost. They are SOO much better than everything else. Don't knock em till you've tried one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 If they're so good, lets have a 24" one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 If they're so good, lets have a 24" one That's pretty unlikely considering the number of DHers running 24", or the number of 24" wheeled competition trials riders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Heh, I know there'll never be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Why have a Bash that covers 23 teeth?Aren’t most screw on sprockets 18 tooth?A light weight 22 tooth screw on sprocket is what the worlds lacking. *Waves finger in the air* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 A certain company makes 23T screw on sprockets now... Which, when combined with an 18T freewheel on the rear hub makes an excellent ratio for 24"... :wink2:For reference, as Tom said in the other thread, please call us with direct questions. This thread is about our Blog and it's updates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 We have a duro tester here nowWhy doesn't that suprise me? I'm suprised Adam hasn't designed and built a rig for verifying frame geometry with a control fork... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 We've got one of them already, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Pics or it didn't happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Dave got a little enthusiastic with some caustic soda and a headset, resulting in a very slightly undersized headset that can be slipped into and out of frames without damaging/marking them, but without being really loose. We've also got a random set of Urban forks too, so we just slip the headset in, put the forks in and measure away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) So when you guys are measure CS / WB lengths on frames with horizontal dropouts, do you actually measure from the axle to the BB or front axle with the bike set up, or do you just have set measurements with chain length increments with a fixed gearing (mods'll be 18/12) and add that on accordingly?Did that even make sense? Edited December 9, 2009 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Makes perfect sense... we know the chainstay length for the gear ratio that will be on the bike, measure from the BB to the dropout (well, where the rear axle will be), then hold the tape in the same place and move it out to the front axle - easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 So, how can one frame have a CS of 362 and another have a CS of 363? Adding one link onto a chain would surely increase the CS length by more an one mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 To be fair, if you can tell the difference when you ride it you'd be a bit of a hero. Bearing in mind that the age of your chain and sprockets would mean that you're likely to have a greater fluctuation in CS length than Adam not being able to work out to the exact mm what a frame is, it's probably not worth worrying about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 So, how can one frame have a CS of 362 and another have a CS of 363? Adding one link onto a chain would surely increase the CS length by more an one mm?Probably a typo, only the Hydroxx 2 showed 363mm chainstay, sorted now, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Never mind, you answered my question while i was typing it. So what is the length added to the CS when one link is added to the chain? Edited December 9, 2009 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 That'd vary according to your gear ratio... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 That'd vary according to your gear ratio...Well with regards to mods, 18/12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 That'd vary according to your gear ratio...... but usually around one set of chain links which is 1/2" (12.7mm). It's not exactly half a set of links because of the angle that the chain makes between the (larger) front and (smaller) rear sprockets. Hence 350 stays on the mod frames with 'short' chainstays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 So that means the wheel will sit quarter of an inch / 6.35mm further back when a links added.350 to 355 = 5355 to 362 = 7Suppose that makes sense with rounding. I guess I'll be able to sleep peacefully tonight then.How's the Koxx White Sky feel to ride then? It has a huge CS length compared to the rest. Or is that just to make up for the very high bb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 A pair of links is 1", not 1/2", so your numbers are incorrect.Personally, I'm a fan of longer stays so I quite like the White Sky. The reason I got a Lynx was the 362mm stays (which are now around 365-ish at a guess on mine). I don't really like the feeling of shorter stays on mods for gapping and preloading for power moves, it just feels like you've not really got much to push against. Riding Ads's's's's's's's bikes it feels like when you kick to gap, the bike just flies out arse-first from under you. I guess it's something you'd get used to, and a lot of people seem to, but I just prefer the longer rear/lower BB feeling of mods like mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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