JD™ Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Very sorry for my spelling He was referring to your spelling and grammar, but i've looked at your profile and your not too bad overall </pedant> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 You missed the your/you're though JD... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Shucksmith Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) You missed the your/you're though JD...Don't worry Edited September 9, 2009 by Hannah Shucksmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Ok, so he has the balls on a podium and tells us some bull poo about how camelot have the legal right to give the results first, which has got to be bollocks because they air it live so it's impossible them not to be first. So that means he does not know the balls (obviously) that also means the balls do not have the numbers on them. Also, he won't have been banned from buying a ticket.The whole trick is how he got the numbers to appear on those balls. There was actually a good deal of time, the first ball was called, then went though the rest and then he wrote them down (he could have been doing this as the balls came out instead of standing there with his hand over his mouth) so the time from revealing the balls from the first ball comming out is around 1m 10 seconds, and around 30 seconds from the last ball to the reveal.I guess a lot happened in that time. Although I have no idea what. The podium that the balls were on was a little weird, my best guess would be that there's something inside the balls that projected or marked the numbers on there. Although that doesn't seem very 'Darren Brown like'. But at the end of the day there is only 10 numbers that would end up on those balls, just repeated, making it a little easier that it first seems.The balls are in numerical order so chances are the last ball is going to be 40 something and the first is going to be a single digit, but there could well have been non of those 20 numbers and he wouldn't leave anything down to chance i don't think. The way i suspected this would be originally done was that he'd some how have every combination of lotto numbers and just choose the ones that were right. Edited September 10, 2009 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 The way i suspected this would be originally done was that he'd some how have every combination of lotto numbers and just choose the ones that were right.Do you realise how many different combinations there are for that? He would literally be filming all year for it!I didn't watch it, but knowing Derren, it has to be something more ingenious than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Well i didn't mean physically, i guessed that before he did it. I wouldn't have put it past him, that's what he did for the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arw_86 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) i can't figure it out, but did any one notice he kept completely still throughout the draw of the balls. he had his hand to his face and just froze. dont know if that has something to do with it.maybe as it was a fixed camera they overlapped two shots. one a photo of him, the surroundings and balls etc. and the other was a cut out of the tv screen, so the tv was the live feed and the rest just an image, and then he went behind the tv and wrote on the balls and back to his original position. however i dont have a clue how he got back in the exact same position.so im totally wrong lolbye Edited September 10, 2009 by arw_86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 If it was any other magician, but Darren wouldn't use camera tricks like that. I'd say if you were sat there watching him, it'd appear exactly the same than it would on tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Youtube Video -> ">" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Think about this a bit...camera tricks? sketchy editing?Derren has been advertising this for a while, its build up a pretty big media storm...for him to do this and the end result be editing, it'd destroy his career - this guy has a huge following; I really do find him very entertaining - but I'd feel let down if it were a camera trick, as would many other fans.However, what is important to highlight (again) is that the guy is an illusionist. We all have the basic skills for it; you can tell if someone is lying to you, you can see it in their body language and their speech, Derren has perfected this beyond what most people can understand.The general public have a way of completely rejecting anything they don't understand. Of course he didn't predict the lottery numbers - we could all take a shot and get one or two correct, but the odds agains't him for 6 are well stacked.He talks very very quickly in his acts, he watches people. The show last night when he asked the girl to count down from 500 why the guy had two numbers in his head; he never took his eyes off that guy, my guess is when the girl said the number (i.e. thinking of 45, she said 445) he must have subconsciously had a reaction to that number which got him to predict it...however lottery machines don't have a reaction.And although there isn't a way he could predict the numbers like that, he's certainly got a very clever method of making you think that he did - beyond any sort of explaination of a projector or editing, I'm sure of it.I look forward to the show on Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Think about this a bit...camera tricks? sketchy editing?Derren has been advertising this for a while, its build up a pretty big media storm...for him to do this and the end result be editing, it'd destroy his career - this guy has a huge following; I really do find him very entertaining - but I'd feel let down if it were a camera trick, as would many other fans.100% agree with you there. A lot of comments on youtube are saying it's split screen as if it's a fact, it's hard not to agree with them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I wouldn't be surprised if it was the split screen trick, the camera has a lot of wobbling which could be added as an effect to help hide any flaws with the split screen, he'll probably come up with some incredible sounding system on friday to make it sound cleverer than it is though, I wouldn't believe all the explanations he gives on tv. Personally I've found a lot of his tricks dissapointing, in his truth or dare series I remember being unimpressed by all of them, the only one I can remember right now was when he claimed to make some girl with no piano ability able to play like a concert pianist without ever touching a piano, yet at the end he revealed she was actually a music college student, that's just lying He's undoubtedly very good at what he does though and very clever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I wouldn't be surprised if it was the split screen trick, the camera has a lot of wobbling which could be added as an effect to help hide any flaws with the split screen, he'll probably come up with some incredible sounding system on friday to make it sound cleverer than it is though, I wouldn't believe all the explanations he gives on tv. Personally I've found a lot of his tricks dissapointing, in his truth or dare series I remember being unimpressed by all of them, the only one I can remember right now was when he claimed to make some girl with no piano ability able to play like a concert pianist without ever touching a piano, yet at the end he revealed she was actually a music college student, that's just lying He's undoubtedly very good at what he does though and very clever.Wasn't she a music college student who could play the piano, but suffered from stage fright, he then hypnotized her to forget everything, and then retaught her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Wasn't she a music college student who could play the piano, but suffered from stage fright, he then hypnotized her to forget everything, and then retaught her?Iirc at the start he made it sound like she had never played the piano, and only showed her in her hypnotized state unable to play, so teaching someone with no ability to play that piece would be very impressive. However a music college student with the relevant skills would be able to play that piece straight off if they listened to it constantly for a week like she did, after I watched the show I listened to the piece a few times and could play it straight away, it's a relatively simple piece and is in C major so the easiest key to be able to play it by ear in. All of those flashing colours on the laptop and other stuff was most likely just a placebo effect, you're going to have more belief in being able to do it if you think somehow he's drilling it into you with amazing software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I reckon it could have been a split screen on something along those lines. If you watch the video, the cameraman is holding the camera the whole time (its slowly moving) untill the final ball is shown. Then the camera position freezes for a good few seconds and then begins to move again. This time could have been used as a split screen to get the balls changed.We all know he did not predict those numbers to come up and it is a 'trick'. Would have been more impressive if he showed the numbers before the lottery reuslts, obviously.Some of his stuff i have been pretty dissapointed with, other stuff is truely genius. Did anyone see the russian roulette one BTW? that was scary too watch.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted September 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Look at his hand/thumb? two hands? weird? Edited September 10, 2009 by LukasMcNeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Wood Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 not going to lie but i thought that was amazing..hopefully its easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Look at his hand/thumb? two hands? weird?Looks like a thumb, but he has big hands then...If it's a camera trick, he sucks.If it's a formula or something, BBC won't be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted September 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Looks like a thumb, but he has big hands then...If it's a camera trick, he sucks.If it's a formula or something, BBC won't be happyIt cant be a formula he's not bloody Pythagoras! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 It cant be a formula he's not bloody Pythagoras!Are you implying that if Pythagoras were still around, he would be able to predict the Lottery numbers with a formula? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted September 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Are you implying that if Pythagoras were still around, he would be able to predict the Lottery numbers with a formula?No Im saying that derren however clever isnt a mathmatician? and there might be a formula? think about the variables of life and someday someone might get the formula? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 It cant be a formula he's not bloody Pythagoras!You never know...All will be revealed on Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted September 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 You never know...All will be revealed on FridayIm almost certain its not a formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 A formula for random probability? Sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 A formula for random probability? SweetWell I don't know, just wondering how he did it is all, if he didn't do it with camera tricks and editing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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