snoolax Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Hello everyone,i am a new trial rider. Just got my first trials bike a 26" czar. Comes with Maguras front disc and rear Vs on a grinded rim.However my brakes especially the rear are squeaking rear loud. As in i live in a communal areas of flats and work in the day, i cant practice at all in my only free time at night with brakes that squeak loud..may i ask if there are any methods of having brakes as silent as a MTB? perharps i changed a new rim or do front rear disc?thanks and appreciated for all help and advice given! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale-Hill Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Want quiet? Go disk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Morton Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Brake booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoolax Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Want quiet? Go disk! thanks for the quick reply dale!!i am just worry that going front and rear disk will break the frame or something.. i am not doing any agreesive stuff now.. just learning the basics like trackstand, hopping and pivoting... how far can front and rear disc take the punishment to?thanks again!Brake booster. thanks jack!a newbie question here.. how does brake booster help in reducing the squeaking? i only knows that its the additional piece which is attached above the frame with the brakes... thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale-Hill Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 You have more chance brake your bike with maguras, as they but loads of presure on the forks and they snap forks some times. Disks can take a good beatng, as long as you don't totally as$hole them!It stops te frame/forks flexing as much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 i am just worry that going front and rear disk will break the frame or something.. i am not doing any agreesive stuff now.. just learning the basics like trackstand, hopping and pivoting... how far can front and rear disc take the punishment to?No problem there, only real risk of damage I think is knocking the rotor, especially the rear becuase of things like sidehops...Brake boosters might quieten it a bit, but I run a booster on HS-33 and smooth rim and that squeaks quite a bit.Could try a smooth rim, but I'd leave it really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoolax Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 thanks guys! so can i say that my safest bet is to run front and rear disk for a almost silent braking? (with modulation? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Morton Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 a newbie question here.. how does brake booster help in reducing the squeaking? i only knows that its the additional piece which is attached above the frame with the brakes... thanks!Sorry but not compleatually sure upon how it does it, But it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 The sound is the vibrations through the frame.If you have a booster the frame won't flex as much. Therefore less vibrations so a quieter brake.Something like that anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoolax Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 i guess i now my options with be 1. try a brake booster first, if it doesnt reduce the squeaking to a level that i can practice at night, then i shall go for rear disk for great silence..anyone knows if magura Vs can be converted to disc? my rear is running chris king hub btw.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale-Hill Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 You'll need new wheel/hub then.Does your frame has disk mounts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoolax Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 You'll need new wheel/hub then.Does your frame has disk mounts?yup fortunately it has disk mounts.. do i have to change the whole wheel with hubs? Do i have to change the whole rear brake set too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver gu Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Brake booster wont do anything, double disc is completely silent, you get the odd moan now and then. I have booster on my back brake and it squeaks like a b*****d hop e this helps mate good luck oli xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Morton Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Brake booster wont do anything, double disc is completely silent, you get the odd moan now and then. I have booster on my back brake and it squeaks like a b*****d hop e this helps mate good luck oli xxxWell you're doing somthing wrong then.. Cause i've got my brake set up pad's set up square on the rim, No tar.. And it doesn't squeek hardly with a brake booster, I take my brake booster of and it squeeks like a Bi*ch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D A N N Y Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Bit of wd40 will do the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 ID get some koxx greens haha, there good and silent. if not your a little f**ked, rock greens again are quiet. but disc or a shit brakes your options atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale-Hill Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Cocky, I though you said disks was shit then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Cocky, I though you said disks was shit then when in that did I say discs were good, there for fags who cant set up a maggie properly!!!! but in this case a disc is quiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoolax Posted September 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Hey guys i made a mistake! my frame doesnt have rear disk mounts so i am stuck with my maguras Vs.. hence for now i am only left with the option of getting a brake booster and a set of quieter pads..However as a new rider i think it might be my incorrect braking technique that might be causing all the squeaking.. what i mean is that i have been modulating the brakes like what i have been doing to my normal MTB for years, instead of just using the on/off braking.. i find that once i started using on/off breaking, especially with the front(disc) before my rear i almost reduce the squeaking by 70percent!may i ask here that do trails biking need brake modulation? or its mostly/always a on/off braking.. thanks and appreciated as always! =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe O'Connor Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 may i ask here that do trails biking need brake modulation? or its mostly/always a on/off braking.. thanks and appreciated as always! =)Depends on what you are doing.For me, when I am (tring to) side hop or bouncing up stuff on the back wheel (I forget the name for it) I use on and off braking.But when you are, say, doing gaps to front then you will have to slip your front brake so that you will roll on the front wheel untill the back wheel will land on the target.Just look at trials videos, a lot of it is on and off, but you can see where they slip their brakes to accomplish somethings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoolax Posted September 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Depends on what you are doing.For me, when I am (tring to) side hop or bouncing up stuff on the back wheel (I forget the name for it) I use on and off braking.But when you are, say, doing gaps to front then you will have to slip your front brake so that you will roll on the front wheel untill the back wheel will land on the target.Just look at trials videos, a lot of it is on and off, but you can see where they slip their brakes to accomplish somethings.thanks Joe! i kinda get what you mean already =)so basically modulation is used only on the front disc right? like maybe when rolling along a narrow line and stuff.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 take the brakes off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe O'Connor Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 thanks Joe! i kinda get what you mean already =)so basically modulation is used only on the front disc right? like maybe when rolling along a narrow line and stuff..ThanksYeah thats when I mainly use modulation.I think the only time I use modulation on the back wheel is doing wheelies. Or say if doing some natural trials (Im not sure in bike trials, but in motorbike trials) you would modulate your back brake if going down a wet slippery hill because locking the brakes would cause you to slide out of control and lose traction, but other than that Im not sure where you would use it.If, like you say, going along a narrow line dont just modulate the front but the back too.Practice, Practice, PRACTICE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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