Matt Vandart Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Which do you think is better and why?Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale-Hill Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Which do you think is better and why?MattI'd say try all, but i've never used a set of burn's. Try all are lighter arn't they? And they just feel nice cranks IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossMcd Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I Have owned both and its very close actually! But I think tryall win. Purely because you can run a front freewheel setup on them whereas the middleburns are locked.. I really love both cranks! But at the moment im loving my tryalls more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I LOVE my tryalls. Got them 2nd hand about a year and a half ago. They're still going strong now. Juust do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otacon Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I LOVE my tryalls. Got them 2nd hand about a year and a half ago. They're still going strong now. Juust do it!Oi natty fag. shhhhhh (L)Zoo cnc. Say no more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Lmao you cock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Burns. They're still the lightest arms out, they're incredibly stiff and very, very strong, and I think they come with a lifetime warrenty?Get a lightweight ring to go with them and you're laughing.Although on a Mod I'd go with Try-All. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 If you've got a decent freehub set up, a King or a Pro 2, then i'd go for the Burns, i love mine, incredibly stiff, nice and light and awesome warranty and they're British! I run Middleburns on both of my bikes and have had them on nigh on every bike i've owned. Personally i think they look awesome too.If you're going for a FFW set up then Try Alls obviously, what is the cost difference between the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Middleburns are the best cranks you can get. The down side is, it's harder to run on a mod. Other than that, everything about them is better than everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 If Middleburns came with front freewheel compatibility I'm pretty sure nobody would sell anything else anywhere near that price range. Lifetime warranty on Middleburns including competition trials use... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 If Middleburns came with front freewheel compatibilityGuess what I have on my desk (some issues to iron out though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) 165mm f the win Edited August 27, 2009 by LukasMcNeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 160mm try all ***For mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatrip Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Guess what I have on my desk (some issues to iron out though)oooo do tell adam il be investing in a set as soon as they hit tarty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Vandart Posted August 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) If you've got a decent freehub set up, a King or a Pro 2, then i'd go for the Burns, i love mine, incredibly stiff, nice and light and awesome warranty and they're British! I run Middleburns on both of my bikes and have had them on nigh on every bike i've owned. Personally i think they look awesome too.If you're going for a FFW set up then Try Alls obviously, what is the cost difference between the two?Nothing got both available to me, my bird is trying to swap her middleburns for my tryalls.Still considering a chris king you see.May hold that thought if screw on middleburns are in the pipeline!Matt Edited August 27, 2009 by Matt Vandart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 screw on burns, and you've got possibly the best crankset ever invented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Same cranks and a spline mounted ENO freewheel would be the best cranks ever invented... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted August 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) Same cranks and a spline mounted ENO freewheel would be the best cranks ever invented...Absof**kinlootly, Why oh why the screw on freewheel shit. Ever seen a high tourque hydraulic ratchet?We use these heads to undo big bolts with 2"+ threads.12,000psi+ through aluminium splines about 1.5mm high and 3mm pitch on the reaction arm.Don't try and tell me it wouldnt work.Which brings me to another point.Splined hubs (hope etc) WTFIT?It's no wonder the sprockets dig in.Micro spline is the way forward there.Matt Edited August 27, 2009 by Matt Vandart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Absof**kinlootly, Why oh why the screw on freewheel shit. Ever seen a high tourque hydraulic ratchet?We use these heads to undo big bolts with 2"+ threads.12,000psi+ through aluminium splines about 1.5mm high and 3mm pitch on the reaction arm.Don't try and tell me it wouldnt work.Which brings me to another point.Splined hubs (hope etc) WTFIT?It's no wonder the sprockets dig in.Micro spline is the way forward there.Mattalso chuffing expensive due to the tolerances involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted August 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 You make a good point.Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted August 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Here is my dilema.Missus is trying to talk me into giving her my try all cranks and me having my old middleburns back (something tells me I'm getting stiffed here)So I run 18/15 on my bike at the moment on a neon conquerer.the chain stays are 380mm.What I wanna do (hypothetically for now) is run a 16t on the front so what sprocket should I run on ze back to keep the gearing similar AND the chain length similar?My head is to full of mince to work it out.Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Try-all cranks are the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durkie Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Here is my dilema.Missus is trying to talk me into giving her my try all cranks and me having my old middleburns back (something tells me I'm getting stiffed here)So I run 18/15 on my bike at the moment on a neon conquerer.the chain stays are 380mm.What I wanna do (hypothetically for now) is run a 16t on the front so what sprocket should I run on ze back to keep the gearing similar AND the chain length similar?My head is to full of mince to work it out.MattIt seems like it's one or the other: you get the ratio you want or the chain length you want (don't get why you care about chain length at all though). if you're going from an 18t to a 16t up front, then the rear would need to get correspondingly larger for the chain to remain the same length, so you'd end up with like a 16:17 ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 (edited) Here is my dilema.Missus is trying to talk me into giving her my try all cranks and me having my old middleburns back (something tells me I'm getting stiffed here)So I run 18/15 on my bike at the moment on a neon conquerer.the chain stays are 380mm.What I wanna do (hypothetically for now) is run a 16t on the front so what sprocket should I run on ze back to keep the gearing similar AND the chain length similar?My head is to full of mince to work it out.MattWith a 16t front, the ratios are kinda of in between if you run an 18.18:16 is a 1:1.125 ratio.16:14 is a 1:1.142 ratio.18:15 is a 1:1.200 ratio.16:13 is a 1:1.231 ratio.I use 16:13, most people think it's too high but I had 16:14 and just couldn't ride it.EDIT: Chain legnth will barely change, you might be able to get another link out of it, which is a good thing really. Edited August 28, 2009 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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