Fish-Finger-er Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 The Echo for those that are interested, thatd be me then, once i get back from france, im 99.9% ones going to be on the buying list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 They look like kids bikes with those stupid seat and bar/stem setups. And that first Adamant... I think I actually threw up a little bit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 That bike looks incredibly cheap, for some reason.They look like kids bikes with those stupid seat and bar/stem setups.Probably 'cos of that, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leotrialp Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 What i´ve told U!!!! street-trials bike...same shit than the others manufacturers... WHEN A TGS 24 BIKE!!!!! If U want a bike with seat , and horrid shits with no function for trials, do street wow!WOW!!! IS A SUPERMARKET BIKE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 If U want a bike with seat , and horrid shitsI have heard that if you ride the smaller seats, you have horrid shits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Don't worry, we will do some proper builds :wink2:Edit: Quick photoshop, stem on the Echo should have a bit more angle maybe, may tweak later: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 oh deary me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I dont like the look of the bikes and the builds, I also would like to have seen a new Deng brand for his 24" bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I dunno where this steps, certainly not forward in my eyes. At least you 24"ers can run vee mounts with easily available off the shelf forks i suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Im with Mark, why has nobody grasped that making long 24 bikes just plain sucks? Stumpy 24s rock and it seems nobody really makes them for some weird reason. i liked my zoot but it always felt that little bit too long for most things, im 6ft 2 and i still felt too stretched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 1040, +30, 385, 73 for the Echo UrbanI'm looking foward to that, Wouldn't mind a ride on one before making my mind up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Im with Mark, why has nobody grasped that making long 24 bikes just plain sucks? Stumpy 24s rock and it seems nobody really makes them for some weird reason. i liked my zoot but it always felt that little bit too long for most things, im 6ft 2 and i still felt too stretchedJon Fisher's 24UK proto f**k-up that was like 1085 or something ridiculous like that felt alright, but it basically felt like a stock that wasn't quite a stock. It was better than a stock for spinnier stuff and manuals and all that jazz, but it wasn't as good as a stock for doing TGS-y stuff. It just seems like if you want to do TGS on a bike like that, you might as well just get a shorter stock. Matt B or Mike Singleton's Adamant short stock (A1 or something?) felt really nice. Good for TGS, but still nimble enough to do other stuff on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Dude really knows how to make a bike look good doesn't he?!OBM... I'm getting the slight impression that you don't really like the whole 24" thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 It's not that I don't like 24" bikes, I've just only ever ridden 2 that felt any good - Jon Granger's Inspired and Joel Bennett's Leeson. The difference between their bikes and most others was that they were actually set up well, which is something most people don't seem capable of doing. It just seems like a lot of the way 24" bikes are set up is just some kind of shitty bodge that makes up for a not ideal frame design (more specifically the geometry of them), or just parts that aren't really made to work with 24's. I also don't get the point in riding a 24" bike for TGS stuff, but pretty much in the same way I didn't really like the majority of ultra long mods set up to feel like a little stock. If you want to ride a bike that feels like a stock, why not just ride a stock? Like the 'GoodBoy' proto Phil had felt like utter shite because it was pretty much a TGS 24" bike, and just wasn't good at anything. If you end up speccing the geometry of a frame as a massive compromise between 'streety' stuff and TGS stuff, then it's going to be pretty obvious when you try riding it.But yeah, these Deng ones could be set up a lot better. Bearing in mind no-one actually uses their seats on a 24 for tricks or anything like that, you could get away with something a lot smaller just to have it as a simple thing to sit on. Pivotal setups are a lot smaller and lighter, and are still probably more comfy to sit on than some harder, stiffer roadie/XC seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Roll on wheelies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_scott Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) I love how Deng just wipes stuff out the bag like Mary Poppins. This should keep Inspired on ze toes. Edited August 20, 2009 by Mr_scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Jon Fisher's 24UK proto f**k-up that was like 1085 or something ridiculous like that felt alright, but it basically felt like a stock that wasn't quite a stock. It was better than a stock for spinnier stuff and manuals and all that jazz, but it wasn't as good as a stock for doing TGS-y stuff. It just seems like if you want to do TGS on a bike like that, you might as well just get a shorter stock. Matt B or Mike Singleton's Adamant short stock (A1 or something?) felt really nice. Good for TGS, but still nimble enough to do other stuff on.You know it! I've actually got some 24" wheels I want to try in my Adamant to see what its like. Mainly because I can do it for free, but also I'm so used to the geometry I don't really want to change frames.On the whole Deng 24" issue, I for one like them. I think it would have been a lot more interesting to have one around 1060-1070 though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 I think there ought to be more ~1020 24" frames... You can always alter the reach. I think I'd go for 1020 WB, 375 CS, 40 BB and perhaps 73 HA.Nevertheless, the only time that'll happen is if I make it myself/get it made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 I reacon theyd look good with a proper set up!, mainly the bar stem and seat combo, im really interested in what there gonna ride like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Shame you gotta run a load of Deng parts though :\I'd've been interested - but the only Deng compenent I own are forks. Don't wanna have to shell out for BB, new cranks (got tapered middleburns) and would it be a rear hub too? Or is it just that only that tentioner will work on that hub?Quite like that grey Adamant everyone's hating on, but I'm with Revolver. Should be a 1020/1025 version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Looks to me like they have cut down mech hanger's on, Flipp. I'm massivley interested in one of the Echo's now after a second look. (Sorry I didn't text back last night Flipp, I forgot you had text me and I was driving. I can't make saturday man, work ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATRIAL Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Hey ! ,,, Echo disk brake ¿? ,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Hey ! ,,, Echo disk brake ¿? ,,,Deng needs to stay away from making brakes.the black adamant doesnt look too bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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