bikeperson45 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I'm in the middle of an epic battle against my brake.So far what I've been doing is taken brake off. Taken bleed bolt off the piston and submerged in water. Pulled down om brake lever, take finger off bleed bolt, lever comes up, finger back on bleed bolt. Repeat.The problem is it's not working. I've looked on the wiki and it mentions the bleed bolt on the lever, but when I take it out lever blade comes out, so yea, I'm stuck.Can someone tell me how to get it to work please?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 The lever blade shouldn't come out...Are you undoing the right bolt? See where the hose goes into the lever, you need to undo the bolt next to that. It's a little grub screw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgnoseat Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Free bump, I´m in need of assistence of this too.A video would be a good idea to prevent questions like this in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 If I had a firewire card, I'd make the video.I wrote part of the wiki too...It takes a while to get into the right rhythm. Squeeze lever whilst letting finger off caliper bleed hole. Then, whilst unsqueezing the lever, put your finger over the caliper hole again and release the hole on the lever.It doesn't matter which direction you do it in, so long as you do a complete bleed in either direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 do you have to use de-ionized water?Thanks for replys, about to go try again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I just use normal tap water mixed with Pro-Cool, seems to work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger allen echo Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Pro-CoolWhats that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I still can't get it to work. Now what I'm doing is-Undo bleed bolts above waterSubmerge lever and pistonspush brake lever downTake finger off bleed bolt on pistonLet lever go upFinger back onRepeatBut no air seems to be coming out at all Any improvements?Thanks a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 It's a coolant for motorbike engines, very easy on seals and it doesn't freeze. It's quite a thick consistancy though, so I run it 4:1 with normal water. (1 part Pro-Cool, 4 parts water). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshlyd1 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Pump it loads and move it so the hose faces up under water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 You undo all the bolts under water.You need to alternate the holes you're covering. As the lever goes down, cover one hole, as the lever goes up, cover the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger allen echo Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 It's a coolant for motorbike engines, very easy on seals and it doesn't freeze. It's quite a thick consistancy though, so I run it 4:1 with normal water. (1 part Pro-Cool, 4 parts water).Do you use it to stop the pisonts from sticking? same for the master piston? or is it to stop the water from freezing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshlyd1 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Both and it doesn't wreck your seals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Just to stop it freezing and to stop it damaging the seals, it doesn't lubricate really which is a pain, but I just lube the seals myself anyway.I tried making an emulsion fluid, but it wouldn't emulsify no matter what I did, the oil just floated on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I still just can't get it to work Does it make a difference if it's the 2004 modelThanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 No, you can do it on any.You can't be doing it right, but the only way I could show you is to do it there.If you have a syringe, syringe bleed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 No, you can do it on any.You can't be doing it right, but the only way I could show you is to do it there.Yea, I'm just going to try experimenting with it.Thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 S'all good.Remember, keep everything under the water when the bolts are undone, undo them under the water, wind your TPA all the way out, and pump the lever quickly if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Put the bleed hole the fluid is coming out of higher than the one the fluid is entering it. If there are air bubbles in the brake they'll naturally want to go to the highest point in the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Got it! And managed to go for a ride and they worked great.Thanks for help everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottTrials Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 all the rest of these reply's are confusing me.step 1: remove brake from bike and take pads off the pistons.step 2: submerge brake under water and remove bolt on the piston and the grub screw next to where the hose goes into the master cylinder.step 3: pump lever with no fingers covering any of the holes.step 4: while lever is all the way in put your finger over the hole where the grub screw came out from and then release the lever.step 5: repeat step 3 and 4 until a minute or 2 after there are no air bubbles coming out of the grub screw hole.step 6: put bolts back onto the brake while keeping it under water.step 7: test the brake before putting everything back onto the bike and if not start again.step 8: put it back on the bike and get out and ride>hope this helps everyone.Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 It works much better if you only have one hole uncovered at a time. That way, the water is forced to move in a certain direction, whereas if both holes are uncovered, water can go in through both holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest itstroy08 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I found out that the best bleed i ever done was in the river trent. It feels like the frame has a booster on it is that sharp.The view of Royal blood flowing down the trent wasnt too healthy looking though.just undo the grubs bolt and the one on the calliper. have everything under water. just keep squeezing the lever and then put one bolt back inthe do one fimnal squeez and relese then put the last bolt in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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