Canardweb Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) Hello, I ride trials for one year now, and I am always pinching my rear tyre every session, so I was asking myself if getting a dual ply tyre could be the solution to the problem...So, Does it really reduce the pinching risks or is it just a myth?And if it can help, which one shall I get? Continental Der Kaiser tyre seems to be a dual ply tyre so can it be efficient ( I am really thinking of buying that one so do you have any reviews?)? Or a classic Maxxis Minion or Highroller tyre?I don't mind if it's heavier so don't bother about the weight...HELP PLEASE! Edited August 12, 2009 by Canardweb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Continental Rain King/Der Kaisers are the best rear trials tyres ever made in my opinion, so get one if you can.If not, a Maxxis highroller/minion dual ply supertacky is the second best. Either will significantly reduce punctures compared to a single ply tyre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Are you sure the kaiser will reduce my pinching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 What tyre are you running now?If you pinch a DK more than once a month (if you ride hard every day) then you need to learn to be smoother and/or pump up your tyres.I've had a proto Rain King and a DK, over about 7 months now and i've had 2 punctures I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 What tyre are you running now?Hi Roller Single Ply 2.5".The Dual Ply version will DEFINITELY reduce punctures, a Rain King or Der Kaiser will be even better, but they are quite expensive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Hi Roller Single Ply 2.5".The Dual Ply version will DEFINITELY reduce punctures, a Rain King or Der Kaiser will be even better, but they are quite expensive...In that case, yeah a dual ply will help out for sure. What Adam said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Adam, could you make me a discount on the shipping cost as I bought a bike from you not that long ago?It's just a question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 We don't offer discount as standard, sorry, but our price match policy applies: http://tartybikes.co.uk/content.php?short_name=price_promiseThanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 It's alright, thanks anyway, I am trying to see which online shop could be the cheapest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Us, because we will match any price :wink2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nope, because with shipping, chainreactioncycles is cheaper! in euros of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nope, because with shipping, chainreactioncycles is cheaper!we will match any price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 What does it mean? I don't understand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Oh, sorry! Example: If our price is £38, but another shop sells it for £35 (and everything on our Price Match page is ok), we will sell to you for £35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardweb Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) Well! On chain reactioncycles, they sell it to 49.99 pounds ( http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=38428 ) without shipping and 59.99 pounds with shipping to France so...Anyway, if there is any problem and that the price matchig stuff does not work, it's alright!I will get in touch with my local bike shop to see how much it would cost! If you are cheaper, then I will buy from you!Let me know please Adam! Edited August 12, 2009 by Canardweb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Chainreaction do not have the tyre in stock so we cannot match the price, sorry! That is one of the conditions of our 'price match'. If they do have it in stock then we can match their price no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Continental Rain King/Der Kaisers are the best rear trials tyres ever made in my opinion, so get one if you can.If not, a Maxxis highroller/minion dual ply supertacky is the second best. Either will significantly reduce punctures compared to a single ply tyre.Could you expand on this statement please.Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I can do yeah, what do you want to know?In my experience they offer the best:GripPuncture resistanceRolling resistanceWear lifeAnd offer very good:WeightValue for money (see wear life)Search for my review on the Rain King if you wanna know more, or ask in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I can do yeah, what do you want to know?In my experience they offer the best:GripPuncture resistanceRolling resistanceWear lifeAnd offer very good:WeightValue for money (see wear life)Search for my review on the Rain King if you wanna know more, or ask in here.Sounds good to me, I'm looking to replace my rear rubberqueen, which I ripped open quite easily on a failed sidehop. Also I had loads of pinch flats with it and I'm a smooth rider.How would you compare them to Sticky fingers?Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 They're 10000 times better than sticky fingers. They're grippier and more pinch resistant than the rubber queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Sounds good to me, I'm looking to replace my rear rubberqueen, which I ripped open quite easily on a failed sidehop. Also I had loads of pinch flats with it and I'm a smooth rider.How would you compare them to Sticky fingers?MattGet an old tyre, cut a piece out and wack that inside the rubber queen, good as new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 They're 10000 times better than sticky fingers. They're grippier and more pinch resistant than the rubber queen.Are you refering to the rain king or the de kaiser or both.Get an old tyre, cut a piece out and wack that inside the rubber queen, good as new. Will try that, thanks guys.Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Are you refering to the rain king or the de kaiser or both.Anything at all is better than a sticky fingers, I tried a cheapo XC tyre that was better than my sticky fingers haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 (edited) Anything at all is better than a sticky fingers, I tried a cheapo XC tyre that was better than my sticky fingers haha.See now, I had some sticky fingers and they were alright apart from the weight and the fact that they got bunged up with shit really quick.I was talking to a mate I ride with that is proper good and he thought sticky fingers are good. Not that I am saying I am a robot that listens to the nearest person, it's just he knows his shit and the price of RK/DK compared to sticky fingers..............I mean my rubber queen wasn't cheap and ripping it open pissed me off, ripping open a 50 odd quid tyre would make me get the red mist I think.I'm just wondering are the side walls on the RK/DK stronger than the rubber queen?Also Nick I can't find your review of rain king/dekaiser tyre, any chance of a link please?Thanks fer replies.Matt Edited August 15, 2009 by Matt Vandart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Bump,I'm still on a tyre search and thought I would re-cycle and old topic.Summary:Got rubber queen, need alternative because:Pinch flatsProfile too highMine ripped open quite easily.Mate of mines keeps puncturing all the time.Profile too high f**king up the Geo on my bike.Options I am looking at:Maxis high roller single plyMaxis minion front treadRain King De kaiserAt the minute I am thinking of going with the minion.ThanksMatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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