Complete Build Advice

[sterns]

Hi all.

Looking for a little advice on what type of complete to get, not as in makes, but sizing.

Ive mainly always ridden bmx with a brief stint on a onza T-Pro for a laugh but had issues with the geo on it.

Now im 5tf6 but 13st, but not overweight.

As I said, always done bmx, and I can hop them pretty much what I want and feel if I had a decent gearing and brakes would be fine, but obviously bmx is not a trials bike.

My brother and three mates all ride 26's, echo's, adamants etc.

Ive had a go, and feel far too big for me. Not a chance to do anything on.

The T-pro was great fun and I could throw that around no problems, but I felt it was a little too long and I hated the stem (OEM).

Ridden my brothers spare, 221Ti and thats too flexi for me and again, something with the front end.

I would like to ride trials , but im trying to work out how best to build a bike or buy a complete one that feels right coming from a bmx perspective and feel.

If I could get the front end feeling vaguely similar to the point of allowing me to bunnyhop comfortably, then it would be amazing, but I dont know how best to get around that.

I used to have a Revell 24 and that was easy to ride, although heavy and cumbersome, but that got me thinking about a street orientated 24 trails bike.

Thats where I found about the Ashton Effect.

But I dont know anything about it except whats on the website.

After a search on here, heard something about the frame not being strong enough and was prone to breaking.

Is this correct for the new Ashton Effect?

Though not looking like its been released yet.

Ideally Id be after a complete through a shop, as easier, otherwise id have to look into building a custom up over a while, and id end up chopping and changing parts alot.

Just trying to get a bike that rides more street wise but is strong enough to throw it around and take some hits on walls etc..

anyone got any idea's?

on a 20, is there anyway of running a stem to feel better, or you need to run the long high ones for geo purposes?

thanks very much

Tony

[Maladie]

Firstly, I don't know how you found a T-Pro 'long' in any circumstance what-so-ever.

The wheelbase is 1005mm, compared to some streety bashers you can get like the Zip which is something stupid like 1055.

And you are saying you want it to be street orientated.

But if you want a shorter bike, you're better off going for something designed for competition use.

Like a Monty or a Koxx, but these cost the earth and aren't very strong.

Maybe going for a shorter 24" would be the best idea,

the bigger wheels will make the length feel alot less than it actually is.

[sterns]

Thanks for the reply.

Suppose it wasn't the overall length of the t-pro but something with the front end that made me feel like my weight was too forward and was making me stretch, if you understand.

I'll have to look into 24, but as no-one has one it's hard to try and decide if it's going to be right.

Hard to explain overall, but coming from old stlye of riding like using scott frames in 1996 which were just normal 15" frames but just using granny rings, I'm trying to get that feel again. Even seeing Akrigg riding his goose reminded me.

Maybe I'm worrying too much

cheers

tony

Firstly, I don't know how you found a T-Pro 'long' in any circumstance what-so-ever.

The wheelbase is 1005mm, compared to some streety bashers you can get like the Zip which is something stupid like 1055.

And you are saying you want it to be street orientated.

But if you want a shorter bike, you're better off going for something designed for competition use.

Like a Monty or a Koxx, but these cost the earth and aren't very strong.

Maybe going for a shorter 24" would be the best idea,

the bigger wheels will make the length feel alot less than it actually is.

[Maladie]

Thanks for the reply.

Suppose it wasn't the overall length of the t-pro but something with the front end that made me feel like my weight was too forward and was making me stretch, if you understand.

I'll have to look into 24, but as no-one has one it's hard to try and decide if it's going to be right.

Hard to explain overall, but coming from old stlye of riding like using scott frames in 1996 which were just normal 15" frames but just using granny rings, I'm trying to get that feel again. Even seeing Akrigg riding his goose reminded me.

Maybe I'm worrying too much

cheers

tony

That might of been how the guy had set up his front end, eg: tilted the bars forward alot, got a longer, higher rise stem than usual.

But to be honest, if you're use to bmx's, and old skool trials bikes, then a mod these days will feel completely different to what you're use to.

As you can probably see, mod's have changed soooo much throughout the years.

From basically being a bmx frame, with different bars and much higher gearing, to what they are today,

A seatless design to give as much space possible, and just about every part is completely different to anything you'd find on any different bike!

And coming back to the 24's, you will find that actually LOTS of people have them.

But probably just not around your area, I think there are a big few around London.

But even if you don't manage to get to have a go on one, you can probably see by video's the differences in how they are rode.

[Nick Melson]

Firstly, I don't know how you found a T-Pro 'long' in any circumstance what-so-ever.

The wheelbase is 1005mm, compared to some streety bashers you can get like the Zip which is something stupid like 1045.