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The new frame is differant, V.Attractive.

Do I even have to say what I wanted to say? haha, joe knows what I think should happen to the new frame, and for those who dont two words, snail and cams!,

If your going to make this frame street baced, I think you might want to take that into action imo!

and yeah longer sounds fun!

onza are by far theeee top trials company around atm and this is just taking them to the next levle, as much as onza will no doubt hate me I think this is a turn around for trials as it stands there are no street frames on tarty bikes and onza price range is spot on along side thee other frames too!!

but as Mat said to me other day on the bike, onza have all these frames coming out but there rims and stems are wank!, I like the stems however theres not alot of choice in rims or anything, maybe start on more parts side? as from the quality Id rather have onza parts over other makes, Ive had thee old t master hub silver one, since I started and its still perfect!!

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Do I even have to say what I wanted to say? haha, joe knows what I think should happen to the new frame, and for those who dont two words, snail and cams!,

NOOOO!!!

don't listen to this kid, snail cams??? what dick head would want snail cams when you can have the system thats on onza frames at the moment?

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NOOOO!!!

don't listen to this kid, snail cams??? what dick head would want snail cams when you can have the system thats on onza frames at the moment?

:blink: Maybe one who doesn't enjoy his frames cracking on the dropouts?

Ill happily stick by saying THE SAME DICKHEAD THAT SNAPPED HIS FRAME ON THESE WONDERFULL ANTI SNAILCAM SHITTERS THAT THE BOLT COMES LOOSE ON ALL THE TIME ANYWAY (Y)

The same dickhead who most street riders will agree its not all about kool your drop outs look or some fag that cant handle the effort of setting up your wheel with snail cams!

MY POINT BEING THAT IF THIS IS A STREET FRAME, DESIGNED BY A STREET RIDER WHOS GOING TO BUY IT? SOME NATTY FAG? NO STREET RIDERS and as by that its going to get ridden HARD! like a bitch.

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how many people would go with out these shitter dropouts for a frame that wond snap?

or

Q;

how many people want to have these dropouts on the street frame and snap there frame?

because if street riders are on them THEY WILL SNAP! I ride my bike alot smoother than most out there!

and seen as all the other pro series are going to be with the other type of dropout you have the choice!.

not starting anything here, but for the sake of changing this one thing on there frame they could make thee best street frame ever with this rider!!

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snails cams are crap!!

i had nothing put endless hell with them on my mod. they dont hold your chain tension at all the wheel just moves unless you have a king or profile as they use m8 and m10 bolts so can be tightened up loads. not even a world champion has decent chain tension, ive seen vincetn and gilles with crap tension loads.

onzas system is a god send. just replace the the nut with a nylon lock nut then the bolt won't work free, simple.

you adamant that just because your frame broke this is instantly a problem.

you obviously know f**k all, lets just say alot of frames do break by the dropout. its not the tensioning system thats the problem, its just the design shape of the dropout as it is all cnc'ed one piece, that its putting to much stress on the chain stay. just change the design and you still keep the great tensioning system.

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your not looking at my point at all though your just thinking ohh its just some tgs guy ill have too be a dick about his point :S

Im not saying everyone is going to snap there frames due to these dropouts, however ill put money on street riders snapping them!

its a mint way to tention your chain yeah, but the offset idea is imo the reason they will die, and you can see my point as i can see yours, but as my other topic says well see wht happens as time gose by,

however! if this is going to be a tgs frame (INCH GRABBING!!!!) its going to get used and abused, and zhi tentioners or monty ones hold tention.

im sure if your NOT going to ride tgs you can get a skull or somethink and knowing all the tgs riders up near me are with me on this one, im not going to give up saying just run snail cams and dont offset your steys onza. not for all your other bikes but for a street bike atleast!

I know atleast 3 riders that allmost got a ice frame but they wont simply because they think that they will kill the dropouts. . . . . .

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snails cams are crap!!

i had nothing put endless hell with them on my mod. they dont hold your chain tension at all the wheel just moves unless you have a king or profile as they use m8 and m10 bolts so can be tightened up loads. not even a world champion has decent chain tension, ive seen vincetn and gilles with crap tension loads.

onzas system is a god send. just replace the the nut with a nylon lock nut then the bolt won't work free, simple.

you adamant that just because your frame broke this is instantly a problem.

you obviously know f**k all, lets just say alot of frames do break by the dropout. its not the tensioning system thats the problem, its just the design shape of the dropout as it is all cnc'ed one piece, that its putting to much stress on the chain stay. just change the design and you still keep the great tensioning system.

they do it on purpose to give more mumentom

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snails cams are crap!!

i had nothing put endless hell with them on my mod. they dont hold your chain tension at all the wheel just moves unless you have a king or profile as they use m8 and m10 bolts so can be tightened up loads. not even a world champion has decent chain tension, ive seen vincetn and gilles with crap tension loads.

onzas system is a god send. just replace the the nut with a nylon lock nut then the bolt won't work free, simple.

you adamant that just because your frame broke this is instantly a problem.

you obviously know f**k all, lets just say alot of frames do break by the dropout. its not the tensioning system thats the problem, its just the design shape of the dropout as it is all cnc'ed one piece, that its putting to much stress on the chain stay. just change the design and you still keep the great tensioning system.

Not all snail cams are crap. You should see how tight my chain is with the Echo Tr steel cams, they work better and has lasted longer than my last 2 set of trialtechs and another set of zhi cams. My wheels don't move either and my hubs use a M6 bolt. I think there was a reason why vince and gilles had loose chain tension which I can't remember why. What Matt Smith said.

I still think M6 bolts are too small for an area where so much weight is put on. When I first saw the dropouts on the ice I was a bit wary of them not being very strong with them gaps in between, well guess what, they do snap like Seabass has said. Why couldn't it have been one solid bit of CNC? How much weight did them gaps really save? But seriously how many other frames with solid CNC dropouts you see has broke?

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That was a big surprise!!

Now all I'm imagining is the onza blade with the same geo as the long 06 Zoo python :shifty:

My frame then. :)

Big step for onza, Will defonatly be buying a 20010 frame. :D

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