Kick Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 im lookin for my first bike and trying to decide which one to buy. Im quite tall but people have reccommended a 20" as im beginner. Is the onza rip, onza bird any good??? which is better??there is also the ONZA Spyrogyra which is 26". im quite tall so this would work too. any suggestions??? cheersim lookin for my first bike and trying to decide which one to buy. Im quite tall but people have reccommended a 20" as im beginner. Is the onza rip, onza bird any good??? which is better??there is also the ONZA Spyrogyra which is 26". im quite tall so this would work too. any suggestions??? cheersAso forgot the onza hitman. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladie Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 (edited) Hey there mate,I myself ride an Onza Bird, and I can definately recommend it over the Rip.It comes with a front disc (which is very bitey), instead of a vee, and it comes with Creepy Crawlers, which are much better tyres.Both of them are pretty heavy as they are beginner bikes, but both are very strong and nice to ride for the money. Go for the bird mate EDIT: Here is a picture of mine if you're wondering what they look like: Though I have modded mine a little bit. Edited August 9, 2009 by Horndean Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Im not really seen a load of these bikes and correct me if im wrong, however disent the rip have 2 20" wheelsand the bird have a 19" back, so just for that reason id go for the bird.because your a beginner your speck dosent matter 100% and if you can learn the tricks as youve seen in the above post, then you can mod your bike as you wish to suit your self and your style of riding.also even if there is a price differance the rip will last you untill youve got your moves then youll want a new bike, the bird will last you as long as you like as even I would be happy on one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Though I have modded mine a little bit.Have you not got any headset spacers above the stem? How have you tensioned the stem properly?I'd say the spec does matter an awful lot, I had a standard T-Pro and didn't learn that fast, then got a Zona frame and started upgrading it. Every time I upgraded something I got a lot better.It doesn't matter who you are, if you ride a better bike you will learn faster and be able to ride it better straight away. (In my experience). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Have you not got any headset spacers above the stem? How have you tensioned the stem properly?I'd say the spec does matter an awful lot, I had a standard T-Pro and didn't learn that fast, then got a Zona frame and started upgrading it. Every time I upgraded something I got a lot better.It doesn't matter who you are, if you ride a better bike you will learn faster and be able to ride it better straight away. (In my experience).all im saying is even on a good bike you your still a begginer- and imo if you start from the basics not only when you up grade your bike youll get better again, you will also learn to appreciate your bike. ive seen too many spoilt brats on here for anyone to knock that comment . if you got a bird, you could learn the basics then upgrade it however much you feel , however if you was to get a rip theres not alot you could do with that when you gets better as its got two front wheels. and youll just kill the back wheel on bigger moves.I dont think id be looking for a new one if it was me id be looking on pinkbike/ebay for one someone has had and dosent ride anymore and got for a t-pro or blade over one of these frames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 If i were you...id get second hand t-pro...one of the nicest riding mod frames made in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calumt Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I have the Onza pro and i liked the double disk but then the back maggie rode better so i think you should get the blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex-trials-boy Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) Hey there mate,I myself ride an Onza Bird, and I can definately recommend it over the Rip.It comes with a front disc (which is very bitey), instead of a vee, and it comes with Creepy Crawlers, which are much better tyres.Both of them are pretty heavy as they are beginner bikes, but both are very strong and nice to ride for the money. Go for the bird mate EDIT: Here is a picture of mine if you're wondering what they look like: Though I have modded mine a little bit.How can u live with a vee's i hate them personaly every thing ealse is nice and just out of intrest how heavy is it? Edited August 13, 2009 by alex-trials-boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 How can u live with a vee's i hate them personaly every thing ealse is nice and just out of intrest how heavy is it?yeh totally agree with that one matey i had a go on one with vees got up on back wheel did some hops and the brake wouldnt stop slippin one bit it was rate bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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