Mark W Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Perhaps the dawn of the proper trials external bb crankset?Chain-line's bad enough on mods at the best of times! Similarly, if the switch to 116mm rear ends on stocks kicks off more, it'll be a problem for them too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-A Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Maybe the innovation should be a switch to 150mm rear ends then. Wide spaced flanges building stronger wheels, with better chainline.Though it'll never happen for the same reason as the 25" backwheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Only thing I ever have problems with these days are brakes (rear only actualy, front mono trial is always perfect), freewheels and chains.All the rest is perfectly fine for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 I've been waiting for years! I first went double disc in around 2002... When's Dave going to get the Mk2 Inspired sorted?! YES I need a dual disk inspired, all the good brake set ups on the inspired have worked fine but been way too noisy for anything to look smooth, like little drags on manuals just sound like a screaming duck. I disagree with Ali on the carbon front, as prices are only going up?I think air sprung frames could sap power if not used propperly and dont think it will catch on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 The thing with that air-sprung frame is, it relied on the flex from the frame, there was no pivot. I think this could be a weak point in the frame, but similarly, if there was a pivot, it might result in losing power. You'd have to learn to ride with it, anywho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Maybe the innovation should be a switch to 150mm rear ends then. Wide spaced flanges building stronger wheels, with better chainline.Though it'll never happen for the same reason as the 25" backwheel.And also because unless you had a much wider BB, you'd have trouble getting the stays to bend out that far? I know you could slam a yoke in there, then have straighter tubes going from that, but 15mm extra rear end width's going to be hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 I disagree with Ali on the carbon front, as prices are only going up?CFRP technology is having huge amounts of money spent on it in research all the time. Newer techniques are developed and prices will fall as we develop better ways of producing it.The only problem is it's tendency to delaminate in impacts making it a dangerous material to rely on with high contact trials parts (frames, cranks, forks etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 pneumatic, wireless brakes.The lever sends a signal to the calliper which uses air to push against the piston causing the pads to move.Not as mad as it sounds..........Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Yoshi Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Not as mad as it sounds..........MattPlease explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Pointing out that pneumatic would be wireless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Yoshi Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Pointing out that pneumatic would be wireless?No why we would do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest itstroy08 Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 No idea, looks good, and no cables to snag or pop.And Would be a simple 3 peice unit, maby even remove the hydrolic idea, and just use air suction to push the pads, so you only need to clean a filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 And Would be a simple 3 peice unitSo a power supply, compressor (potentially), air cylinder and pneumatic rams...I can't see it being too simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest itstroy08 Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 So a power supply, compressor (potentially), air cylinder and pneumatic rams...I can't see it being too simple.I mean more simple to set up. not the actual tech stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Im sure there will be economies of scale. The sport is obviously growing rapidly (since I was i Australia for a year the sport grew by 25%!)Although you say that, a couple of years ago, you could go to say shipley glen on your own, at any weekend and you knew there would be around 15-20 riders. Now your lucky if there is anyone else up there except yourself. I do agree that bikes are getting better, but the english comp scene (well northern) seems to be dying, when compared to around 2 or 3 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) Yeah cause up north weve seen the light and decided street riding is the way forward?Kinell bikes should be less gay and the scene should be more like dirtt jumping and bmx. Edited August 4, 2009 by Mike W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprog! Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I'm going on air pressure braking. It wll be more cheap right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I'm going on air pressure braking. It wll be more cheap right?Not if it's wireless and I imagine it would be comparitively heavy... Don't see it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) pneumatic braking would be cool especially "wireless" all though i really cant see it in trials riding also air compresses easily unlike liquid. Edited August 4, 2009 by Mike W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Didnt Shimano make air pressure brakes and gear shifters way back when. I seem to remember they were unbelievably expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryallmaster Posted August 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Although you say that, a couple of years ago, you could go to say shipley glen on your own, at any weekend and you knew there would be around 15-20 riders. Now your lucky if there is anyone else up there except yourself. I do agree that bikes are getting better, but the english comp scene (well northern) seems to be dying, when compared to around 2 or 3 years ago.Totally understand your point. When I started 9 years ago it was the norm to enter comps and freeze your balls in the rain. Over the years street has taken over and the comp scene has steadily declined. From the looks of it at the moment though comps are slowly becoming more popular. Maybe due to more 'streety' comps...I think freewheel systems need to improve!!! The clutch idea is definitely on the right lines.Lewis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Didnt Shimano make air pressure brakes and gear shifters way back when. I seem to remember they were unbelievably expensive.Steve Peat ran the gear system on his DH rig for a while ('Airlines' springs to mind) but it never took off. Don't remember brakes though.Edit: Anyone spot the minor design problem?Slick. Real slick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Design flaws, where shall we start?Aside from the fact that a pressurised canister is fastened by cable ties and the weight of adding a canister and valves, I'm thinking the placement on the downtube (well known for avoiding hard obstacles of course...) isn't the greatest idea either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Integrate it into the frame and it's all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I can picture it now...Someone wanting to lighten their bike, thus drilling holes in their pressurised air canister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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