Rusevelt Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Gary Reinbach 22yrs, a nobody to most of us here but sadly this young lad died on sunday (10 weeks after being admitted to hospital) due to developing cirrhosis of the liver, he'd been binge drinking since 13yrs. What is most shocking about his death is that he'd been denied the opportunity of an emergency liver transplant until he was alcohol free for at least 6 months. Now im not suggesting that within the next 8-10yrs of your lifespan you could potentially develop some form liver damage, but its a stark warning never the less. Better to be safe than sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 It's not shocking that he got denied a liver transplant, why give a liver to someone who put themselves in that situation where as someone else who had liver problems by no fault of their own would miss out.People really do underestimate what drinking a 4 pack every night will do to them. Anymore than a pint and a half is considered an unhealthy amount to drink per night.R.I.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I hope that never happens to me R.I.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I hope that never happens to me R.I.P.Yeah man, you better watch yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 What quailifys as binge drinking?y'know i go out alot, but i dont get paraletic and rarely throw up, but i get drunk quite often but only when i go out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) What quailifys as binge drinking?Depends which newspaper you read.It's importantly to clarify the difference between 'binge' drinking and alcoholism. Alcoholism is abuse of alcohol to the point that you rely on it...just like smoking, and I don't care what anyone says, alcohol is addictive.You live in that mind set and drink due to ignore problems (relationships, family, debt, work) - at this point it isn't 'binge' drinking. You're probably spending every last penny you have on booze.Binge drinking, in my eyes, is complete bollocks. Its something the media have invented so they have something to blame for all the 17 year olds that get hammered and beat a granny up - thats not binge drinking, thats being a scum bag.It is a shame and all that, however I can't help but think that to get to the level of destroying your liver, you must have felt rather ill before hand? Edited July 21, 2009 by anzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I would put my left leg on the line and say very few propper trials riders were alcholics, doesn't really go hand in hand. I drink a lot, and like it, end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 What quailifys as binge drinking?y'know i go out alot, but i dont get paraletic and rarely throw up, but i get drunk quite often but only when i go out..Considering that heavy drinking has been going on for hundreds of years, and considering how few young people die due to alcohol compared to how many drink and don't die, both at present and historically (~99.9%?) I think we'll be ok. It's a sad story, but binge drinking from 13? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 "Heavy drinking" isn't quite an accurate portrayal of what's going on though. People may have drunk beer heavily in the past, but bearing in mind people drink a shitload more spirits with mixers now, more damage gets done. Most shit involving vodka is pretty bad for you - just look at how ridiculous the state of alcoholism is in Russia these days. Pretty shocking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Ridiculously awesome? Youtube Video -> ">" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Ridiculously awesome?Real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDoom Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 ~Reminds me of the rayban advert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigamac Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 very few propper trials riders were alcholicsExcluding lanky rick. Rip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) It's importantly to clarify the difference between 'binge' drinking and alcoholism. Alcoholism is abuse of alcohol to the point that you rely on it...just like smoking, and I don't care what anyone says, alcohol is addictive.You live in that mind set and drink due to ignore problems (relationships, family, debt, work) - at this point it isn't 'binge' drinking. You're probably spending every last penny you have on booze.Binge drinking, in my eyes, is complete bollocks. Its something the media have invented so they have something to blame for all the 17 year olds that get hammered and beat a granny up - thats not binge drinking, thats being a scum bag.Well said, binge drinking is defined from "Drinking anything over 3-4 untis in one day" to "Drinking to the point where day to day tasks (like work or school) aren't attended because of drinking". Edited July 21, 2009 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well said, binge drinking is defined from "Drinking anything over 3-4 untis in one day" to "Drinking to the point where day to day tasks (like work or school) aren't attended because of drinking".I was always under the impression that binge drinking was when you didn't drink regularly (as in not every day) but got absolutely can't-remember-your-own-name-till-4pm-2-days-later drunk whenever you did drink.Otherwise, as has been said, it's just alcoholism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted July 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Well i certainly have no simpathy for former football legend George Best. RIP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 I was always under the impression that binge drinking was when you didn't drink regularly (as in not every day) but got absolutely can't-remember-your-own-name-till-4pm-2-days-later drunk whenever you did drink.Yeah that too. Like was said above, it depends what paper you read, or where you get the definition from.I'd be interested to know about the guy that died, how exactly was he drinking, everyday, or getting slaughtered a couple of times a week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bol Maaaaaaing Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 R.I.POnce again being xSTRAIGHTEDGEx is making my life safer I love you you xSTRAIGHTEDGEx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 To be honest I've had many near misses, none involving alcohol.When your time's up, your times up. Hence, I shall continue to drink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 or getting slaughtered a couple of times a week?If he started drinking from the age of 13, and needed a replacement liver by that age, I doubt it was just 'a couple of times a week'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 R.I.POnce again being xSTRAIGHTEDGEx is making my life safer I love you you xSTRAIGHTEDGExWhy do you need to type it like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 (edited) R.I.POnce again being xSTRAIGHTEDGEx is making my life safer I love you you xSTRAIGHTEDGExAre you intentionally trying to make edge kids look like a bunch of dicks, because I'm not down with that. We already get enough shit as it is, writing xSTRAIGHTEDGEx makes us look like a bunch of 14 year old girls. I just checked your profile and you're 16, surely that just makes you a law obiding citizen rather than "properly" edge? I know plenty of people who were edge up until they turned 18, now they all drink like f**k and are always going on about how awesome it is. I was 18 when I turned edge, I had been drinking socially for a year or so, but it got more serious when I went to uni, so I decided to give up, and after a year or so of staying "drug free" I considered myself to be edge. I'm not trying to be a willy but I don't think underage kids not drinking or following the "rules of straight edge" is "being edge".I actually came in here to ask, what's a "Trialster"? Edited July 22, 2009 by JonMack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Quinn Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Are you intentionally trying to make edge kids look like a bunch of dicks, because I'm not down with that. We already get enough shit as it is, writing xSTRAIGHTEDGEx makes us look like a bunch of 14 year old girls. I just checked your profile and you're 16, surely that just makes you a law obiding citizen rather than "properly" edge? I know plenty of people who were edge up until they turned 18, now they all drink like f**k and are always going on about how awesome it is. I was 18 when I turned edge, I had been drinking socially for a year or so, but it got more serious when I went to uni, so I decided to give up, and after a year or so of staying "drug free" I considered myself to be edge. I'm not trying to be a willy but I don't think underage kids not drinking or following the "rules of straight edge" is "being edge".Yer but by 16 most kids have started drinking or drink has generally been around in their social groups for a fair while, from my experiences round here anyways. He definately sounds like a willy, but surely you can't put an age limit on this lifestyle choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Once you get over 18 though, you're more likely to be involved with the actual clubbing scene and shit like that where harder drug taking's more normal. As a result being edge is actually a difference at that age, rather than just not necessarily having as much access and influence in doing it? I can certainly see what Jon's saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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