Spektrum Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Well after seeing dave marshall's video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92rMlZfmkJE, along with numerous danny mac vids of him riding street, i wanted to get 2 bmx pegs installed on my fourplay. So yesterday i took a trip down to my local bike shop to ask them about the pegs, and showing them my bike they said it was impossible. Yet a few of my riding buddies have told me it is, and you can clearly see dave has a peg on his rear axel. Is there a special type of peg i need? I have no idea how to set up a peg on a trials bike so all help is greatly appreciated. If you need pictures or specs, i will be more than happy to comply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 It's definitely possible. The reason I didn't run one on the front is that I use a disc and grind to the disc side so it was a no-go. I did consider not running a front brake but I like ups to front too much! The rear one was just a standard 10mm BMX one (first tried a G-Sport PLEG but it lasted about two rides so went for an Odyssey Jpeg Lite). I initially ran them on a standard Echo singlespeed hub with a longer than standard Unbrako screw but decided that was asking for trouble so instead turned up a stainless steel axle at work which used proper 10mm nuts instead. Worked just fine and was good fun for experimenting with! I'm currently running without because the peg wasn't being used enough but there's no reason why you can't go for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 To my knowledge, Dave has a special rear axle made so he could fit a peg to his bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spektrum Posted July 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 ah, i was worried i might have to change the axel, I was hoping for an easy on easy off sort of thing just so i could experiment with bmx a little more. I'm running an onza fixed hub (6 speed from tarty) with the stock screws. If i cant scrounge up longer screws ill have to try on the stock ones, new hub comes last : (. Thanks for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 You also have to take into account that most BMX hubs use 10 or 14mm axles, giving enough strength to support the weight of the rider. If you're landing on a peg held on by M5/M6 bolts I'd have said they'd snap within 2 or 3 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 It wouldn't take much to make a new axle for the Onza hub- I just copied all the dimensions for the bearing shoulders etc and simply had longer M10 threaded ends instead of the drilled and tapped M6 screw holes in the stock axle. Easy to change and you can still run the modified axle when you remove the peg. If you know anyone who works in a machining place it would be worth an ask- think I made mine in about 2 hours (and I'm not exactly skilled on a lathe and the one at work doesn't have any of the right tools so it was all bodging and guesswork!).Edit: Forgot to add that when I ran the M6 screws in the standard axle I also turned up a little aluminium tophat thing which took the 10mm hole in the peg down to 6mm for the screw and located everything correctly. Ran it like that for a while (in fact that Youtube vid was done with the standard axles and M6's) but eventually decided it would be a better idea to go for the new axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Do you reckon you could run a peg on a chris king funbolt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Do you reckon you could run a peg on a chris king funbolt?In theory yes however because CK HD axles are aluminium I don't think it would be that advisable... Also, because the funbolt threads are M12 you'd have to get 14mm pegs and then make some kind of sleeve or tophat washer to take up the 'slack' (Edit: which still wouldn't quite work due to the bolt reducing down to ~10mm at the dropout). It would also depend on how thick the 'base' of the peg and also the thickness of your dropout because of the design of the bolts.Edit: So yeah, probably no . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Oh yeah, I forgot about the thread on the funbolts...Stupid chris kings... Maybe I should see about swapping it for someone's 24" hope wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 This topic has definitely got me thinking.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 If using a peg was more practical for me, I'd do it. Can you get a proper nut axle for a pro II? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Use the normal fun bolt axle with steel bolts available for around 40p each from hardware stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Use the normal fun bolt axle with steel bolts available for around 40p each from hardware stores.They wouldn't fit in the dropouts though. You'd have to file the frame to get them to fit... (assuming you're talking about CK). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 They wouldn't fit in the dropouts though. You'd have to file the frame to get them to fit... (assuming you're talking about CK).No was responding to this:If using a peg was more practical for me, I'd do it. Can you get a proper nut axle for a pro II? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 I know that hope do a couple of different axles for their pro II hubs. I was hoping they'd do one with nuts.Now, if I had a marino built that could take a BMX hub... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 No was responding to this:Thought so Yeah, that'd work. Only problem is the aluminium axle although I don't know quite how beefy the ProII axles are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Thought so Yeah, that'd work. Only problem is the aluminium axle although I don't know quite how beefy the ProII axles are...I suppose, it is why I am not trying it. How much do you reckon an engineering firm would charge to build a new axle out of steel? I want one for my oldschool t-rex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 I suppose, it is why I am not trying it. How much do you reckon an engineering firm would charge to build a new axle out of steel? I want one for my oldschool t-rex.Your best bet is to find a friend or someones dad or whatever who works in a machine shop... I'd have thought if you could provide them with the original aluminium axle to copy the geometry from and throw £10-£15 at them they would be fairly happy to oblige. Homers ftw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Thought so Yeah, that'd work. Only problem is the aluminium axle although I don't know quite how beefy the ProII axles are...Heard and seen more than few broken ones from regular riding. Over tightening may have been the issue in some cases, but you get the point.I'd also definitely go with a custom steel axle for the rear. Probably the only option without mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) Single speed dirt jump hub for the win! Got the steel axle and will take the stress of a peg. Edited July 14, 2009 by bender b rodreguez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Single speed dirt jump hub for the win! Got the steel axle and will take the stress of a peg.I was fairly close to getting one of these for a while:Until I emailed CRC to find out if they made spare axles for them. Apparently not, hence me making my own axle for the Echo hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 You could of got a dmr revolver. There threaded to take a freewheel.You could of got a dmr revolver. There threaded to take a freewheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gussie Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Yeah what bender said. Surely a dmr or similar hub with threads for a freewheel or sprocket with a nutted 10mm axle would be strong enough? But then again i don't actually know how strong the axles have to be it was just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hollow 10mm axle + peg = danger.The thing is - if you're just using it to do stalls (because on a trials bike, it's unlikely you'd be able to get much speed to grind anything properly, plus the dropouts/frame would get f**king destroyed almost instantly, judging by how much it kills BMX frames that are designed to handle being ground on), why not get a micro peg instead? I do a bunch of pegless grinds/stalls on my BMX, they're genuinely not that hard to do, so it'd probably make more sense to just try that? Superstar make various versions for use with female or male axles, so you could always give them a look.But yeah, unless you're after a f**ked axle, stick with a solid 10mm axle. Also, try and get a hub that'll support the dropout better 'cos otherwise they'll probably just get f**ked almost instantly if you start doing anything serious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gussie Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Aren't the dmr hubs solid? I thought they would be, for jumping? Oh well, i don't think i could even bring myself to do that to my nice new frame anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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