Mat Smith!! Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Right, it's impossible to set my chain tension right without my brake hitting the tyre, I've tryed taking a link out and you cant even get it on the cogs, so were can I get a decent strong halflink for KHE Collapse chain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Do you happen to know any BMXers locally?EDIT: Reason being - best half-links around are the links that make up the Shadow Conspiracy Interlock V2 chains (Or the YBN/Gusset/whatever copy), so just see if any of them have a spare link or two that you can poach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Do you happen to know any BMXers locally?EDIT: Reason being - best half-links around are the links that make up the Shadow Conspiracy Interlock V2 chains (Or the YBN/Gusset/whatever copy), so just see if any of them have a spare link or two that you can poach.Ah right, theres a few bmxers around here, but I don't go riding or owt with them, do you think the shadow conspiracy will work okay with a khe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Better than any of the others. The pins on them are mushroomed, but have a relatively wide part where the outer plates can sit on them, meaning that you can get a pretty fat chain in them with no fuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Better than any of the others. The pins on them are mushroomed, but have a relatively wide part where the outer plates can sit on them, meaning that you can get a pretty fat chain in them with no fuss Alright cool, are they expencive as full chains? or can you buy singular links?No idea of any bmx shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Only available as full chains unfortunately, and they're pretty expensive considering that - as a full chain - they're shit. 'cos the plates are kinked by design, when you put pressure on them they want to straighten, so they just stretch and stretch and stretch. However, if you've just got the one in it's not as noticeable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 If you do go with one, check it before every ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Only available as full chains unfortunately, and they're pretty expensive considering that - as a full chain - they're shit. 'cos the plates are kinked by design, when you put pressure on them they want to straighten, so they just stretch and stretch and stretch. However, if you've just got the one in it's not as noticeable...Just curious man, if that's the case, then how come there are those choosing to still use the full chain rather than say, buy a sturdy 'freestyle' KMC chain, (not the Kool chain) and whack on a separate half-link, which you can buy for about a pound and a half from most stores? I mean, unless of course a. they don't know full chains stretch like bitches, or b. they just like the gash colours that the Shadow chains come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Just curious man, if that's the case, then how come there are those choosing to still use the full chain rather than say, buy a sturdy 'freestyle' KMC chain, (not the Kool chain) and whack on a separate half-link, which you can buy for about a pound and a half from most stores? I mean, unless of course a. they don't know full chains stretch like bitches, or b. they just like the gash colours that the Shadow chains come in.I'd say because they like to snap when used in a full link chain. Or because of the colours like you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 If you do go with one, check it before every ride. , any other ideas as what I can do to get decent chain tension and brake set up?The guy who I bought it off said he had no problems setting both up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 How old is the chain? Could be the guy before you had a new chain and it wasn't stretched as much, or he had an old chain and it was stretched more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 If you do go with one, check it before every ride.Legit Shadow V2 ones are fine. Haven't broken one, yet (Touches wood). Normal half-links suck cock, but these seem alright.Just curious man, if that's the case, then how come there are those choosing to still use the full chain rather than say, buy a sturdy 'freestyle' KMC chain, (not the Kool chain) and whack on a separate half-link, which you can buy for about a pound and a half from most stores? I mean, unless of course a. they don't know full chains stretch like bitches, or b. they just like the gash colours that the Shadow chains come in.Because people believe hype. People think that by buying a half-link chain that they "Have more adjustability" than using a normal chain (Or a normal chain with a half-link in it). It was part of the advertising hype when they first released them, and with most BMXers apparently not possessing any kind of power of thought, people just accept what they're told and run with it. Similarly, a lot of people probably don't give a shit about wearing their drivetrain out quicker by having a chain that ends up f**king driver and sprocket teeth by stretching out too far. Personally, if I've spent £X on a sprocket and £Y on a hub, I'd rather keep everything running nicely so it actually feels good to ride and doesn't wear out super quick, thus pissing my money away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I got a KMC halflink from some shop for about £1.50 delivered. Been strong enough so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 How old is the chain? Could be the guy before you had a new chain and it wasn't stretched as much, or he had an old chain and it was stretched more.My chains about 5 months old, but even if I got a new one it would stretch the same amount as mine is now and be slack again, if you understand what I mean?Can't find anyone with a spair link either :\. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 To contradict everything, however, I ran one for about a year on various bikes (jump bike for a month or two and the trials bike for 10) with no issues whatsoever. That was a single half link (with the internal spacer filed down as it was gay for some reason) in a KMC Z510HX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayshell Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I used a shadow half link and it didn't work because the plates are too thick on the shadow chain resulting in the pin that goes on the normal chain I had being too short and the chain broke on it. However a khe collapse is a fat chain so it should work but personally I think the best solution is just changing your gearing. Adding one tooth in the front or back is the same as adding 4/5 of a half link. If you currently have a ratio where the chain is either way too loose or way to tight and don't want to change your ratio adding 2 teeth in the front and one in the back will change your chain tension so that you don't need a half link have the right tension and almost the exact same ratio. Another trick you can do to take a lot of slack out of your chain is buy a kmc z510 HX they stretch a lot less than normal chains and remove about 3/5 of a half link of slack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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