Mr.trial_dude Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 As I soon will have to replace my tyres, I'm not quite sure wich tyre to choose..Coming from a Minion 2.5 , Rubber queen because: Lightweight- Bouncy- Wear rate- Price is goodwhy notGrip ?- pinch flats- stability on slanted stuffDer kaiserbecause: Loads of grip- still lighter than the maxiswhy notpricey-less bounce than rubber queen?- heavier (300grams)thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Rubber queen is a very good tyre, but due to the light weight-ness of it the sidewall is very thin which does cause some pinch flats often, i have recently changed from a rubber queen to a rain king and the tyre is MUCH better, grip is amazing! and the sidewall is just unreal, although i would say that it is still more bouncy than a maxxis! I have been running a maxxis ultralight (100g ish) innertube in mine at around 20psi and have no worries about pinching it!Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.trial_dude Posted June 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Rubber queen is a very good tyre, but due to the light weight-ness of it the sidewall is very thin which does cause some pinch flats often, i have recently changed from a rubber queen to a rain king and the tyre is MUCH better, grip is amazing! and the sidewall is just unreal, although i would say that it is still more bouncy than a maxxis! I have been running a maxxis ultralight (100g ish) innertube in mine at around 20psi and have no worries about pinching it!Adamhmm, but I have to say, I have never even pinch flatted a maxxis.. I weigh 70kgs, and ride fairly smooth I guess..So bounce would be like first Rubber queen>der Kaiser/or Rain king>maxxis ?thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 I pretty much back up what bigman said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mata22 Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 i have been using der kaiser for last 6-7 rides and i dont have words for it. sidewalls are so tough that even if you want you wouldnt do a snake bite. grip is great as i coul feel it. before this one i had try all and this seems to be more bouncy. for weight i dont know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmks88 Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 rubber queen didnt give me extra height on sidehops, it felt like it throws you higher and further especially in gaps but actually there wasnt any difference for me. rubber queen may be ok if youre only 70kg and ride very wide rimsid go for maxxis or der kaiser though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr.Wolfkatze Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 i have been using der kaiser for last 6-7 rides and i dont have words for it. sidewalls are so tough that even if you want you wouldnt do a snake bite. grip is great as i coul feel it. before this one i had try all and this seems to be more bouncy. for weight i dont knowI wish they came in 24" =[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I've used a Rain King for about 5 months now and I've only just put it into retirement, and thought I'd try a Der Kaiser. I have a Rubber Queen hanging around as well, but frankly I've been so imprssed with the Rain King and now the DK i've not bothered fitting it. I'd go DK/Rain King. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Strictly speaking I can't comment because I haven't used a Der Kaiser, but stick with Maxxis.Best value for money trials tyre there is. Unless you enjoy fixing punctures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpanzyyyy Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Unless you enjoy fixing punctures.steven is da smooth machine, will never had issues with punctureshe looks like is just made of drill bones and small bouncy muscles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 What about Rain King vs Der Kaiser on performance only, anyone here qualified to comment on both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I guess I'm qualified? Very similar performance wise as th only difference is the tread pattern and you can't go wrong with either. I'd say the rain king was better for mud/wet grass as it has a wider spaced tread pattern, and the DK is blockier and closer spaced so in theory better for street. The side tread pattern is, in theory, better on the Rain King than the DK as it has wider spaced knobs that would hang onto corners better. Having said that, I havn't noticed wild difference in perfomance between the 2, as the compound is the same and generally thats the most important feature.Strictly speaking I can't comment because I haven't used a Der Kaiser, but stick with Maxxis.Best value for money trials tyre there is. Unless you enjoy fixing punctures.Value wise, I'd say Continental were better, actually. I just put my rain king into retirement and it was over 5 months old... I used to get about 2 months out of a ST Maxxis. Puncture wise, Rain Kings and Der Kaisers are simply amazing compared to Maxxis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetjibs Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 thanks for that info neil... you always post helpful stuff, cheers mate!im currently sponsored by maxxis australia so havent used contis yet. but at nationals i was very impressed with the compound of a mates rain king tyre. safe to say he had bit more grip than me on the amazingly drenched wet rocks and logs. its great to hear they are more resilient to punctures than the rq. i stil rate maxxis though, but the contis are definately a worthy competitor for top tyre position by the sound of it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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