Captain Scarlet Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Right after no joy of ringing Hope and asking if they would make a custom Pro2 or have any intentions to release one in the near future, I thought I'd ask on the forum to see if anyone got Pro2 rear hub fitted into 20" dropouts.I know Swindlehurst has one fitted, but the way it has be modified means the disc rotor spacing is completely wrong (my only issue here as I'm running dual disc).I am in need of a good rear wheel build, and my freewheel sounds like its on its last legs, so to kill two birds with one stone,Has anyone adapted a Pro2 for mod spacing, with a working disc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 There was this topic about a mod Hope hub. So it's probably worth a read if you have some time.There's always a King, that's if you like King hubs and have money. But they do require playing around with spacers for the disk calliper. And there's also Profile, but hard to get hold of in the UK.But i wouldn't hold your breath for an easy ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I had a bit of a look at doing this when I had my Pro2 apart, and it looks to me like you'd have to have a redesigned drive shell. It has 3 bearings in there already, and to get the drive shell small enough you could only run one of them, which tells me it might die a bit faster.What it need in my opinion, is two of those bearings but pressed in from either side, with a 4-5mm shoulder to stop them actually touching.It can be done, but you'd need a proper machining centre. Hope needs to get its arse into gear, how they can't see that this would sell amazingly well is a mistery to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialsMan Dan Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 This would also be good for modstock riders like me . I'd imagine this would sell really well as it is alot cheaper than a King but the quality is just as good. I think we should put together a vote then give the feedback to Hope and hopefully they will see the light and produce it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladie Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 This would also be good for modstock riders like me . I'd imagine this would sell really well as it is alot cheaper than a King but the quality is just as good. I think we should put together a vote then give the feedback to Hope and hopefully they will see the light and produce it.+1Awesome idea because every single person is going to vote yes to making one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 It's been done, there have been several topics on here and tarty tried to get them to do it a few years ago, but they havn't taken notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlet Posted June 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Cheers for the input on this.As much as I would like a King it is a bit out of reach of my budget, and profile isn't disc compatible.Hope have the market in their hands here (admittedly it is a small market) but there is no freehub for 20" wheels with a disc mount as standard.And of course there may be a large demand from the BMX market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam-Griffin Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) You can get a Profile with a disc mount, I'll just dig you a link out and edit...Ta da !Although whether it's any good for trials i don't know... Edited June 20, 2009 by Adam-Griffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 (edited) See i wasn't lying I enquired about one, but the shop never got back to me. Assholes. Also due to the current exchange rate i wasn't keen on buying from US. It worked out just under £200 posted if i remember rightly [edit]I will point out the obvious. If you already have fixed cranks, maybe buying a King won't work out much more expensive if at all. Edited June 20, 2009 by eskimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob. Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I have a hope pro 2 on my koxx xtp and i am running duel discs but mines a prototype , danny swindlehurst got his machined down i think by some body called steve.Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 There's always a King, that's if you like King hubs and have money. But they do require playing around with spacers for the disk calliper. And there's also Profile, but hard to get hold of in the UK.I run less caliper spacers on the rear with my Koxx/Hope/King than I do on the front with my Dob forks/Hope/Monty hub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Hope are very busy and don't make a huge amount of money from the trials market, so its hardly their top priority.But I am another person who would love a 116 Pro 2 for my modstock... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 we should all bulk email the claiming demand! imagine the bmx market if they made a non disk one, the race scene would jizz all over them. My mate (bummxer) raped his profile the other weekend, hes now waiting weeks for he bit he needs cause its from america. hope'd be able to produce bits sooner etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Surely lopping down the fhub to just take a single sprocket, cutting down the axle and basically shutting it back up would do it? Need some machining but meh!Or, get a 20" wheel frame with 135 spacing, such as a leeson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Surely lopping down the fhub to just take a single sprocket, cutting down the axle and basically shutting it back up would do it? Need some machining but meh!Or, get a 20" wheel frame with 135 spacing, such as a leeson.machining it down = raped warrenty. do they still even make leesons? arent they well expensive.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 I run less caliper spacers on the rear with my Koxx/Hope/King than I do on the front with my Dob forks/Hope/Monty hub Proved wrong again machining it down = raped warrenty. do they still even make leesons? arent they well expensive..No and yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 This would also be good for modstock riders like me . I'd imagine this would sell really well as it is alot cheaper than a King but the quality is just as good. I think we should put together a vote then give the feedback to Hope and hopefully they will see the light and produce it.Quality is NOTHING like a king, king are much more reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Thats opinion not fact. I've snapped one spring in my Pro2, whilst I know people that have broken their kings several times.The machning quality is amazing, you'd struggle to get much better when mass producing stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Quality is NOTHING like a king, king are much more reliable.but when you compare cost and convenience, the king is way more expensive so you'd expect it. but when the shit hits the fan and your hub chomps up its internals, which is easier to get sorted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladie Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 (edited) Quality is NOTHING like a king, king are much more reliable. Somehow, I don't think so .. Edited June 21, 2009 by Horndean Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale-Hill Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Quality is NOTHING like a king, king are much more reliable.Yeah and look what happend to cocky.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Look how many people have used them without them dying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 And of course there may be a large demand from the BMX market.There wouldn't be. It's going to be more expensive than what's around, you couldn't get a 9t driver on it, you couldn't run a proper hub-guard on it, and the axle wouldn't hold up to pegs all that well. It'd also only be available in RHD, which means you'd miss out on all the people running LHD... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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