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hey I'm a 14 year old beginner trials rider look 4 a good beginner bike any advice will take anything. Ive seen a bike that i like and that is a onza limey 2 which Ive seen 4 £380 2nd hand though but that is a 26" and i dont no if it will be to big and bike suggestions are appriceated thx alex. (Y):giggle::turned:

Hi Mate

I suggest getting something like an Onza bird something like that go to www.tartybikes.co.uk

Have a look on Tartybikes they are a great website you might see something else you like

the reason i say go for something like a bird is because its cheap and you have only just

started so it would be good for you my opinion anywayhope this helps .

Kieran

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Hi 20" (Mod) are best to start on most people get on with them fast 26" (Stock) most people find them to big to throw around. 20" Onza's are a good make to start with most riders started out with one or there is Da Bomb and Mission all make both 20" and 26" so look around see what fits your price.

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There's a few 20" bikes for sale in the 'For Sale' sub-section at the moment, I really can't be bothered to look but chances are a few of them in there are onza, if you follow the guidelines and type posts that are helpful and with the correct grammar, spelling and punctuation you'll get validated, meaning you can then buy these bikes from the forum.

Alot of people consider an Onza for a first bike, and I suppose that's because they're relatively cheap; there's always a few splashing about on Ebay, and if you're lucky you could find something on advertising websites such as Gumtree. If you want to buy direct from a trials specialist store, then here would probably be the best place to go - as a word of warning, stay away from here.

Generally, I think people find a 20" better to learn on, it's smaller, generally lighter and you can throw it about more. Alot of people begin riding a mod and then later convert to stock after gaining skill and a better ability to ride. Generally it's given that beginners should start riding on a second hand bike, as scratches and such won't be too much of a worry, however, for the price of £380, you have a choice of both the Onza Rip and the Onza Bird (which are both 20" bikes), as sold for £313.19 and £362.13 on this page here!

I've searched Ebay and come up with these which may be of some help to you.

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It quite clearly is a discussion, two sides putting their point across... What you're getting offended by, I imagine, is the fact that the majority of people replying aren't as blinkered as yourself to the (very good) possibility that religion is a big pile of human created rubbish. You have done nothing to make anyone see things your way because, from your posts, you're in waaaaay too deep and, in my opinion, have completely lost touch with reality and are totally lost in the sensationalism side of American religious craziness.

In my opinion not all christians are nuts, just misguided. You, however, I would describe as nuts! :P

On the whole Santa vs. God thing... JT has it exactly right but misses out the vital, final point- 'By the time people turn 10 (or so), they come to realise that Santa is actually just a nice made up story to give parents something to threaten their kids with if they're bad and impart some control.'

So what, exactly, goes wrong which stops a lot of people from refusing to believe in a just as crazy story about a man in the sky once they're 10? Is it that the threats are greater? Eternity in pain and suffering > not getting a train set?

Christianity Religion: the greatest lie ever told. (And believed).

There's a few 20" bikes for sale in the 'For Sale' sub-section at the moment, I really can't be bothered to look but chances are a few of them in there are onza, if you follow the guidelines and type posts that are helpful and with the correct grammar, spelling and punctuation you'll get validated, meaning you can then buy these bikes from the forum.

Alot of people consider an Onza for a first bike, and I suppose that's because they're relatively cheap; there's always a few splashing about on Ebay, and if you're lucky you could find something on advertising websites such as Gumtree. If you want to buy direct from a trials specialist store, then here would probably be the best place to go - as a word of warning, stay away from here.

Generally, I think people find a 20" better to learn on, it's smaller, generally lighter and you can throw it about more. Alot of people begin riding a mod and then later convert to stock after gaining skill and a better ability to ride. Generally it's given that beginners should start riding on a second hand bike, as scratches and such won't be too much of a worry, however, for the price of £380, you have a choice of both the Onza Rip and the Onza Bird (which are both 20" bikes), as sold for £313.19 and £362.13 on this page here!

I've searched Ebay and come up with these which may be of some help to you.

Trials is real.

Whats wrong with trials-uk.co.uk

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Well there are alot of topics like this but the limey 2 is new out (sorta) would be a great deal, but have you had any past expericence with bikes bmx, downhill? That would help people choose which would be best for you becuase of the wheel size.

Whats wrong with trials-uk.co.uk

What ins't wrong with trials-uk. I ordered an onza bird off there and it came 3 mounths later with no contact from dan. Besides i dont even think they are even dealing any more?

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