Mark W Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Don't get me wrong Mark, I live every day to the max and have no desire to die. But I'd rather accept death with my philosophy when it comes than be scared of "nothing-ness"If you've 'lived your life to the max' I don't see why there's anything to be scared of after you die? I don't believe in an after-life but I'm not scared of 'nothing-ness' simply because I'm not going to be around to experience it at all and I'm more pre-occupied with what life's offering me at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 If you've 'lived your life to the max' I don't see why there's anything to be scared of after you die?I'm sure lots of people are afraid of death, maybe due to uncertainty or simply because there afraid of loosing what mortal life has to offer them. If I die tomorrow I'd be happy that I had the best life I could have wished for, and I made the most of everything I've done. So I've got nothing to be afraid of, I'm sure I'll make myself nice and comfortable in the after life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 All I was getting at was that I don't see that there's any need to be scared of nothing-ness after death because it just doesn't matter...It also seems like most people's fear of death is based on the idea that it'll be painful, etc., rather than whether they'll live on or not. At least, that seems to be the general gist of it. In that people seem to be more concerned with how they'll die, rather than being alive or dead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 It also seems like most people's fear of death is based on the idea that it'll be painful, etc., rather than whether they'll live on or not. At least, that seems to be the general gist of it. In that people seem to be more concerned with how they'll die, rather than being alive or dead?Good point, I know how I would want to die.In my sleep nice and quietly, or in some alcohol fueled car and cliff sky dive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 This thread has long achieved TL;DR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 I can't be arsed reading most of this.I'm just going to keep it simple.If there is a god then how was he created? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 FeS .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 FeS ....Hallelujah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 I can't be arsed reading most of this.I'm just going to keep it simple.If there is a god then how was he created?Everything which has a beginning has a cause, The universe has a beginning, Therefore the universe has a cause.God is the creator of time, therfore he is not limited by the time dimension that he created, he is outside time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Church looks like a rave to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Everything which has a beginning has a cause, The universe has a beginning, Therefore the universe has a cause.God is the creator of time, therfore he is not limited by the time dimension that he created, he is outside time.Man he must've been bored in the infinite time he was around before he decided to create the Universe. Wonder if he had a hobby... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Man he must've been bored in the infinite time he was around before he decided to create the Universe. Wonder if he had a hobby...I hear he loves trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Church looks like a rave to me! Americans are so messed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 I don't understand religion what so ever.I don't mind people believing in a GOD, but when people try to make other people believe, and if they don't, then they get extreme. I don't believe in that at all. I'm a none believer, for all we know, we could be the dirt on someone else´s finger nail! We will never know why we are here, and how we got here. So i don't understand why people go to the extreme´s of trying to make other people believe, that they know how we got here, when basically its all just a make believe story of how we got here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Everything which has a beginning has a causeWhere's your proof for this then?The universe has a beginning, Therefore the universe has a causeAnd if it's true, then maybe the cause of the universe was to reach an equilibrium? Hence it's expansion and constant acceleration. Expanding until an equilibrium of nothingness and matter is achieved (which may never happen).I don't understand religion what so ever.I don't mind people believing in a GOD, but when people try to make other people believe, and if they don't, then they get extreme. I don't believe in that at all. I'm a none believer, for all we know, we could be the dirt on someone else´s finger nail! We will never know why we are here, and how we got here. So i don't understand why people go to the extreme´s of trying to make other people believe, that they know how we got here, when basically its all just a make believe story of how we got here.If anything, the opposite is happening in this thread. AFAIK its only the US nutjobs which get offended if you don't believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 If the universe is every expanding, whats it expanding into? You cant say nothing, because that would be stupid and impossible. and you cant say its creating new universe as its expanding, because, whats it creating into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 You cant say nothing, because that would be stupid and impossible.Why? In the absence of matter (in the region beyond our Universe) what can you possibly be left with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 If the universe is every expanding, whats it expanding into? You cant say nothing, because that would be stupid and impossible. and you cant say its creating new universe as its expanding, because, whats it creating into?So what, you reckon the universe has an edge? Like a massive garden fence or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 So what, you reckon the universe has an edge? Like a massive garden fence or something?But it does have an edge. There's no fence of course but our Universe could be likened to a balloon, which is continually inflating. Kinda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzmo Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 (edited) I haven't read all the pages, but I have to say that I believe that Jesus died for me, and that's what makes me a Christian. And actually I believe that there are no guidelines, what God says in the Bible are teachings about what we should do to be better persons and to stay in His path, but the relationship with God is completely personal, based on our faith in Him.Anyway, all the christians aren't like those people in those videos.I'm identified with these people: (watch the whole video if you want to see what Christianity is about, having a personal relationship with God) Youtube Video -> ">" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> Edited June 7, 2009 by Blitzmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 I believe that Jesus died for meWhy do you believe that? When in your life did you decide that the way of Christianity was for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Americans are so messed up.(Uh, you know that's a video with the audio track swapped for DnB, right? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 If the universe is every expanding, whats it expanding into? You cant say nothing, because that would be stupid and impossible. and you cant say its creating new universe as its expanding, because, whats it creating into?The universe may not be shaped as you think .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzmo Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Why do you believe that? When in your life did you decide that the way of Christianity was for you?It's all about faith, I believe that God gave us a second chance, and we can have a perfect life after death if we choose to accept Him and believe Him. It's not about being a perfect person and being a saint, it's just impossible for any human being. And well, I decided to take Christianity because I've experimented what is having a personal relationship with God, and He has helped me many times in different aspects of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 It's all about faith, I believe that God gave us a second chance, and we can have a perfect life after death if we choose to accept Him and believe Him. It's not about being a perfect person and being a saint, it's just impossible for any human being. And well, I decided to take Christianity because I've experimented what is having a personal relationship with God, and He has helped me many times in different aspects of my life.How ? We want examples ...Edit: Not an attack just interested as to why it is particularily god that has helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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