maxxis26 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 im building a new bike the frame is a gu st 06im looking to make it as light as possable but trying to keep it cheapi know that you can just hack holes out of the frame and other components but at a cost of strengthim not wanting to hack it to death so with specific components in mind what and where do i make holes?im going for lightweight parts like tires and tubes with drilled rimsbut any advice on specific parts appreciatedcheers maxxis26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=5842I've used it since christmas. Never got a pinch and I've not needed more grip (on dry street), can't see it being very good on wet natty/street though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 seat+head tube is always drill freindly, you could also reduce the gusseting on the top/down tube... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) im building a new bike the frame is a gu st 06im looking to make it as light as possable but trying to keep it cheapi know that you can just hack holes out of the frame and other components but at a cost of strengthim not wanting to hack it to death so with specific components in mind what and where do i make holes?im going for lightweight parts like tires and tubes with drilled rimsbut any advice on specific parts appreciatedcheers maxxis26Tyres and tubes are where you'll save the most weight. I had my bike down to 8.72kg with conti tyres on but the rear rubber queen I had was too big for my frame and rubbed like a bitch.The same bike with try-all tyres was 9.48kg so as you can see the tyres make a huge difference. Edited May 14, 2009 by Al_Fel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 there isn't really a 'cheap' way of doing it if you want your bike to ride well and last. Your frame is quite heavy to start with, but as Anal said, most of the weight is in the tires and tubes. You'll deffo feel a difference if you switch to Contis. Go for a 2.4 Mountain King supersonic on the back if you wanna lose some serious weight. The lighter conti's do puncture easy compared to Dual ply tires though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxis26 Posted May 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 (edited) Tyres and tubes are where you'll save the most weight. I had my bike down to 8.72kg with conti tyres on but the rear rubber queen I had was too big for my frame and rubbed like a bitch.The same bike with try-all tyres was 9.48kg so as you can see the tyres make a huge difference.yeh cheers for that - was going to use maxxis tyres (hence the username) but think im gona try conti's Edited May 14, 2009 by maxxis26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 You're starting out with an already head bike. So you'll never get it "light". Only ever get it slightly lighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 You're starting out with an already head bike. So you'll never get it "light". Only ever get it slightly lighterI was going to say a GU isn't really the lightest of frames, and lighter parts don't really go with the whole street barge frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cultiv8ed ::Chris:: Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 yeh cheers for that - was going to use maxxis tyres (hence the username) but think im gona try conti'sIts never going to be light then if your running maxxis tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 You'll save alot of weight by choosing the right bottom bracket - go with the 'Trialtech Lite' or the Echo bb (they're both the same thing) if you want to keep strenght whilst still being nice and light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 You'll save alot of weight by choosing the right bottom bracket - go with the 'Trialtech Lite' or the Echo bb (they're both the same thing) if you want to keep strenght whilst still being nice and light Even more sensible is to get a ti BB, youll save more weight and have a stronger BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 ..and have no money left in your wallet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Yesterday found out how to save another 48 gramm.I changed Echo rubber grips to tennis racket grip stripe.It grips perfectly, weight only 8 gramms for both sides and cost not that much(obviously, 2.6 pounds or a bit more).Though some of you may find it not ocmfortable because the bar will feel thinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Trials Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Yesterday found out how to save another 48 gramm.I changed Echo rubber grips to tennis racket grip stripe.It grips perfectly, weight only 8 gramms for both sides and cost not that much(obviously, 2.6 pounds or a bit more).Though some of you may find it not ocmfortable because the bar will feel thinner. maybe just getting foam grips is more appropriate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialsMan Dan Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I've currently got Onza tuf guy forks and soon i'm getting Echo SL's, that will hopefully save about 300g but i just want to know what people think of them? Anyone had any problems with them? And are they flexy of quite stiff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cultiv8ed ::Chris:: Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I've currently got Onza tuf guy forks and soon i'm getting Echo SL's, that will hopefully save about 300g but i just want to know what people think of them? Anyone had any problems with them? And are they flexy of quite stiff?You will saving a lot more than that closer to 500g. Can't imagine there the strongest forks. But depends on how harsh you ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guuuuuuuuu leeeeeeeee Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 drill as far away from welds as possible if your going to or by try all part reaonably light and strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I've currently got Onza tuf guy forks and soon i'm getting Echo SL's, that will hopefully save about 300g but i just want to know what people think of them? Anyone had any problems with them? And are they flexy of quite stiff?You'll save about 1kg when they snap off your bike.http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....p;hl=echo+forks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 maybe just getting foam grips is more appropriatestripe is easier to put on the bar, better grip, more stiff,4 GRAMMS lighter than lightest foam grips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Vox Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 You could go to the toilet before you go riding and save 50g if you really force one out.Or equally try laxatives, save kg's ive found. But beware of dehydration.Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 How does cutting the side nobbles off tyres work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esfrost Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 It works okay. I cut off every second knob on my maxxis creepy crawlers and saved almost 100 gramms. It grips just as good or maybe better than before.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I saved 130 off my rear creepy/front try-all. I think I cut the biggest knobbles of the side of the creepy though.If anything it gripped better, it hooked up on edges loads better and it felt bouncier, so it was really worth doing. (If you can stand the way it looks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 saved 120 on my CC rear/ monty front.It really feels bouncyer, looks more agressive, and other benifits like good side traction.The more material you cut under the knob, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialsMan Dan Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 You'll save about 1kg when they snap off your bike.http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....p;hl=echo+forksHoly shit!! Being Deng, id expect them to be strong. The echo sl's are pretty much the only fork within my budget and Tarty currently dont have any Zoo forks with the disc mounts, just 4 bolt. Its the weight im more concerned about, though. What are the urbans like? Ive heard they are quite flexy too. I dont do fairly big stuff, infact, i cant even hook properly and i dont tap often, i just go straight to rear wheel. Im not really a full on TGS rider, i do more street style moves. So what would be the decent fork for me? I only have about £80-£90 to play with so trialtehs are out of my reach. And obvoiusly, id like something that takes a bit of weight off the fron end as my poor arms are aching me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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