AdamR28 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I will ask again and see what TNN say, but the reason previously was for safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I guess that makes sense - but makes it an awefully expensive 1 shot pad ? If it is expected that other materials should refill it I dont see why selling the TNN stuff should be an issue ... ?I should also point out Iam trialing a set of V pads - which are working out pretty sweet on my smooth rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Ad, do you know if they're a fairly standard size? Would Phatpads/Heatsink/Magura material fit with a bit of modification or is it a totally different size/shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Adam can you let us know if they are refillable? I pre-ordered mine and I will have to refund them if they can't be refilled with their own materials or other materials... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 ive just found two sets of old plazmatics in my toolbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Ad, do you know if they're a fairly standard size? Would Phatpads/Heatsink/Magura material fit with a bit of modification or is it a totally different size/shape?different, but will fit with modification (not that you'll want to change;)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) Oops crap. Was on the wrong page. Sorry about that. Edited May 7, 2009 by hdmackay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 different, but will fit with modification (not that you'll want to change;))you would have to once the compound runs out hahahahaah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le @ Tnn Engineering Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Hi guysIf you want some extra info on the pads and CRM compound history. check out http://tnnengineering.com/15701/index.htmlRe fills are currently unavailable but the CRM compound is very long wearing. But if demand is big enough we may reconsider refills.The reason why is. Our gluing technique is so strict. The backing cavities are sand blasted for superior adhesion. The pads are roughened on the glued faces.Both are ultrasonic cleaned and glued together with a toughened super glue under large pressure 50kgs+ until totally dry.Because of our strict gluing procedure we can guarantee the pads won't separate during riding. It's purely for safety reasons. I'm sure saving 10 pounds on a set of pads isn't worth a brake failure and possible serious injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Hi guysIf you want some extra info on the pads and CRM compound history. check out http://tnnengineering.com/15701/index.htmlRe fills are currently unavailable but the CRM compound is very long wearing. But if demand is big enough we may reconsider refills.The reason why is. Our gluing technique is so strict. The backing cavities are sand blasted for superior adhesion. The pads are roughened on the glued faces.Both are ultrasonic cleaned and glued together with a toughened super glue under large pressure 50kgs+ until totally dry.Because of our strict gluing procedure we can guarantee the pads won't separate during riding. It's purely for safety reasons. I'm sure saving 10 pounds on a set of pads isn't worth a brake failure and possible serious injury.Not been able to buy refills is going to greatly reduce the number of sales (as is shown by post in this thread). It's good to know that you got to great lengths to make sure the rubber stays in the pads, but people are capable of doing the job themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Hi guysIf you want some extra info on the pads and CRM compound history. check out http://tnnengineering.com/15701/index.htmlRe fills are currently unavailable but the CRM compound is very long wearing. But if demand is big enough we may reconsider refills.The reason why is. Our gluing technique is so strict. The backing cavities are sand blasted for superior adhesion. The pads are roughened on the glued faces.Both are ultrasonic cleaned and glued together with a toughened super glue under large pressure 50kgs+ until totally dry.Because of our strict gluing procedure we can guarantee the pads won't separate during riding. It's purely for safety reasons. I'm sure saving 10 pounds on a set of pads isn't worth a brake failure and possible serious injury.So if you consider refills, how do we go about seperating the material from the backings? It sounds like they are impossible to seperate by hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 So if you consider refills, how do we go about seperating the material from the backings? It sounds like they are impossible to seperate by hand...Boil them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoNnY__Mc Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 These pads any good on an unground sidewall with or without tar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Hi guysIf you want some extra info on the pads and CRM compound history. check out http://tnnengineering.com/15701/index.htmlRe fills are currently unavailable but the CRM compound is very long wearing. But if demand is big enough we may reconsider refills.The reason why is. Our gluing technique is so strict. The backing cavities are sand blasted for superior adhesion. The pads are roughened on the glued faces.Both are ultrasonic cleaned and glued together with a toughened super glue under large pressure 50kgs+ until totally dry.Because of our strict gluing procedure we can guarantee the pads won't separate during riding. It's purely for safety reasons. I'm sure saving 10 pounds on a set of pads isn't worth a brake failure and possible serious injury.It's a constant problem for people with CNC backings, but when I did mine I did it in a very similar way. I filed the pads to roughen them, got Daddy to shotblast the backings then glued them in in the vice and they held.I've never heard of someone trying to warrenty a set of pads because they came apart. If it does happen, just tell them how to glue them in properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 These pads any good on an unground sidewall with or without tar?Best brake I've ever had was the old compound CRMS on an un-ground D521 that had been muc off'd.. They were nuts. You just gotta keep the surface free from dust, and it'll be really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 are you off your rocker, lets face it the pads seem to be one of the best on the market acording to stan and ali. but no one is going to buy them and then buy them again afterwards, not at the price they will be. they will just buy heatsink or phatpads refills. well done youve got an amazing glueing way so you can guarrentie they won't come out and thats good to boast about but i think i speak for everyone that they know its down to them how well the refills stay in as there replacing them. theres no need for this health and safety bollocks no other company has any problems so why make a deal out of nothing. plus people who already have cnc backings are more likely to just get another refill from someone else instead of buying yours cnc pads.Hi guysIf you want some extra info on the pads and CRM compound history. check out http://tnnengineering.com/15701/index.htmlRe fills are currently unavailable but the CRM compound is very long wearing. But if demand is big enough we may reconsider refills.The reason why is. Our gluing technique is so strict. The backing cavities are sand blasted for superior adhesion. The pads are roughened on the glued faces.Both are ultrasonic cleaned and glued together with a toughened super glue under large pressure 50kgs+ until totally dry.Because of our strict gluing procedure we can guarantee the pads won't separate during riding. It's purely for safety reasons. I'm sure saving 10 pounds on a set of pads isn't worth a brake failure and possible serious injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 These pads any good on an unground sidewall with or without tar?cls ran the same compound for yonks.....its the old plazzy padsim so glad i mentioned refills.And yeah tnn guys....if you were to sell refills im pretty shure it would be everyones choice of pad for dry weather.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 If you fancy making refills that fit Phat backings, I'll have a set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 If they are good enough for stan they are good enough for youYou say that, but from my experience of pro riders very few of them have powerful brakes. They're mostly f**king weak. The better you ride, the less you need a brake with infinite hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 pretty true i guess.......if your tech is spot on the brakes not under as much preashurebut lets face it its the old plazzie compound.its good enough for anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 lol, Stan's brake is the BEST I have ever felt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliott the onza man Posted May 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Ordered mine now, hope they are good. Does anyone know if they actually have them in stock yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Says they're meant to be available tommorow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliott the onza man Posted May 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Says they're meant to be available tommorow.I ordered them along with a brake lever blade and a TPA, I take it they will all be sent out together. (brake pads, lever blade and TPA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 If you ordered before 3.30 then i'm not sure, I guess send them out together? If you ordered them just now they'll send them tommorow anyways... Not sure, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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