Dave Anscombe Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 D watson Told me they are for smooth and tells me they are awesome with out TarNow i know a fair few people run them on grinds and also say they are amazingMine however are pooooooopnice bite but the hold is appaulingsharp grind on a try all rim......many other pads have been fine including croco browns and heatsink redsSo whats the deal ? Id like to be able to ride with out killing my self Any help???????? or info Dave x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Wood Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 my yellows in cnc backings where 10 times better on smooth rim without tar and this was with a white try all rim, and then i grinded my rim, they made a loud noise but no hold, just slipped on everything.. so yeah for smooth rims... but at the moment i have a very dead grind with a tad bit of tar and they are working a treat, so try that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guuuuuuuuu leeeeeeeee Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 im running the vees on back (not set the vee up properly yet)not much bit but lots of hold on smooth with a wee bit of tar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 It's not uncommon for brakes to work worse after a grind. Generally if you're going to ride in dry weather conditions, a smooth rim and a dab of tar is going to give you the most braking power.Try the water bedding in method, it should help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guuuuuuuuu leeeeeeeee Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 water bedding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 water bedding?+ 1would you explain this to me pleas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I put my yellows onto a month old grind and the bite and noise is incredible (well the noise gets a bit annoying aftewr 30 seconds) they slipped a couple of times but nothing major, theyve now had about 10 hours of riding and bedded in nicely they havent slipped on me since.What grind have you got? Mines far from harsh but it still works really well. Maybe give the pads and the grind time to wear in together, should get better Tried a booster? Maybe your frame has cracked round the brake mounts and allowing it to spread more than normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 His frame is fecked. Mine keep getting better as they bed in, less bite but more hold the more I ride it. I'm guessing they work best on smooth or a worn grind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otacon Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 His frame is fecked. And his rim, Well it's not fecked, the rims to start with are just generally crap. 90% of pads don't work on try-all rims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 If you say so... All the koxx bloxx and crocos, rock blues and greens, heatsink yellows, anything for smooth, Coust, CRMs. You're not spoilt for choice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otacon Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 If you say so... All the koxx bloxx and crocos, rock blues and greens, heatsink yellows, anything for smooth, Coust, CRMs. You're not spoilt for choice!Perhaps i should of made myself a little clearer, 90% of pads don't work on a try-all rim with a grind, well, thats atleast how i found it when i ran one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I think you just need to be careful what pads you use. Coust pads, CRMs, Rock Blues and Greens all work pretty well, but I can see where you're coming from, an Echo rim for instance will work with any pad in my experience.I think 90% is a bit high though, maybe 50/50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 my frame does have 3 small cracks.but i run a booster so flex is eliminated........my grind is a light one dave x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 same problem here with them. lots of noise (which i hate) and not enough hold. although to some people they will say the standard of hold is pretty good. didnt improve with a fresh grind either....croco browns in cnc backings on now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 same problem here with them. lots of noise (which i hate) and not enough hold. although to some people they will say the standard of hold is pretty good. didnt improve with a fresh grind either....croco browns in cnc backings on now.Hold is not good enough for natural......and now because of this i cant ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon W Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 seriously, try them on a smooth rim, its summer now anyway so dryyyyyy weatheryou wont be dissapointed, feals like some1 has put a crowbar through the wheels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Damon u know i ride mucho natural......and a smooth rim for natural .....just dont offer the hold im after like a grind and DECENT pads do ...cheers 4 helpin me out anyway appriciate it Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 To be honest smooth rim offers much more hold, i cant use a grind, even when they are decent they have nothing on a smooth rim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon W Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 To be honest smooth rim offers much more hold, i cant use a grind, even when they are decent they have nothing on a smooth rimthat really is true Dave, hence why i run a smooth and swear by it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Tis all good i orderd phat pads yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 + 1would you explain this to me pleas SprinklerSprinkle rimDrag brake for at least 20 secondsSprinkle again removing black dirtDrag againRepeat a couple of times until rim there is no dirt coming off th e rimWait till it dries or drag until it's dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 To be honest, us Plymouth crew have used pretty much every pad under the sun between us, and all still agree the old Koxx Browns are the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) Better than Crocos? Edited April 17, 2009 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Found Crocos to be good to start off with, having more bite than old Browns but slightly less hold. However their perfomance seemed to deteriorate, even after a fresh grind they lost hold and bite. This happened on at least 2 peoples bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Was that just the browns or the yellows aswell? My Heatsink yellows seem great, but they don't hold as well as I'd like and they make my ears hurt, they are really deafening and I think they wind up the neighbours when I ride in my back garden. The bite is perfect though, utterly insane, just how I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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