Simon Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Anyone know any good wide rims on a good hub, eg, hope xc I was going to get d521 on hopexc next week but ive decided its to thin, so I need a wider one, been looking at the new onza ones but they seem a bit heavy any idea's, also, im not the smoothest riders, im not bad though, so gotta be a bit strong 2 :- if no1 does any good full builds then just good rims will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterthansteve Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 :thumbsup: Hope xc's are generally the way to go as they are the tried and tested hub.you could also try the new midleburn hub? as for a wide rim the best choices are the planet x bmf (and all other identical rims :- ) and the new koxx rim. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Hope xc's are generally the way to go as they are the tried and tested hub true as for a wide rim the best choices are the planet x bmf (and all other identical rimsĀ ) and the new koxx rim. half true as far as wide rims go, the bmf and koxx rims are the only choice really, everything else is just a bmf with or without holes, and with or without eyelets. thing is, none of them are really all that good sure there pretty strong, but nowhere near as strong as a 521, and there so heavy cosndering tehy are weaker than a 521 which weighs about 150g less. so the best rim to go for is a 521 and no its not too wide for u be honest? y do u want a wide rim? I dont, many people dont need them, loads of pro's run 521's, take jeff lenosky, chris akkrig used to on his pace, danny holroyd did before the px spnosorship so the truth is u dont need a wide rim at all :- so wake up come to ur senses lad get a 521 on hope xc by FAR the best budget wheel available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 try running d521 on an t-raptor, u have to set up the maggies over the limit, so instead of the mount holding onto the slot provided for them, they hold onto the actuall casing, if u get me, so there is go gap between the mount and the brake's and by no gap, I mean none I only want a wide rim cus of brakes :D otherwise I wud go for 521 but heh, frames can be a bitch :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 by FAR the best budget wheel available so true.. ever since swappin to a 521 ill never look back. They are practically bomb proof and have always had a good name. Ive only had to true mine twice in 7 months. My m8's koxx rim needs truin constantly. Its not worth the hassle just stick with a 2.5 tyre and a d521 on a hope xc.. why ask for more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the reefer Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 I totaly 100% agree with prawn I know I have a dx32 and here are sum reasons not to get a wide rim 1. theyere heavy 2.they aint actualy that strong 3. because theyre so wide they alow no room for a buckle or a dish because it will simply hit ur brake or frame. now sit at home and slowly chant the next phrase d521=good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 also read my post ta :- or does anyone know how to get round extreme gaps between rim and brakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 so the brake works? wheres the problem mate it doesnt matter if the slaves are right in, as long as the brake works then theres no problem, im sure a 521 can be run on a raptor anyway, just leave it as it is, u wont beat a 521 for strength alternatively, do a pad bodge like people with the koxx/521 problem have, possibly the ebst solution, very easy to do, works a treat, problem solved heres a diagram of how I did mine: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 hmmmmmmmmmm maybe maybe :- will ask around a bit and see what everyone thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Echo rim :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 I havnt used a 521 since last year, but recently I had to use one in a comp, all I can say is, the amount of tyre fold I got was ridiculous, it made me fall off in atleast 4 sections. I also found my bmf rim stiffer than a 521 (maybe this was down to wheel build?). I will NEVER go back to a 521, I think they are waaaaaaaay to narrow for natural. If you ride street then I think they will be fine, but if you do comps or natural riding, go for a wider rim. PS good luck in finding ready built wheels, I aint seen any for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 I also found my bmf rim stiffer than a 521 (maybe this was down to wheel build?). that DEFO aint true so it prob was the build mate ive heard good things bout the new echo rim as it isnt just a rebadged BMF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 I mainly do street, and only natural I do is some easy stuff to try and up my back wheel tech and btw, by built wheels, I mean like bikedock's system, or merlin, or chain reactions, u build on the site and comes through the post as a wheel ready to ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Fire me a PM if you fancy getting a wheel built. Wont be much more expensive than mail order, but many say theyre better. Cheers, Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineasmithpig Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 I love 521s for their indestructability (well, almost indestructable. I only broke 4:p) evry1 sed/sez DX32isms r cheese rims or really really heavy. well, yeah. they is noticably heavier till built up into a wheel and shoved on ur bike. remeber, a 521 wheel with mich comp tyre will b heavier than a DX32 wheel with light tyre. but hey.... I (reluctantly) went for an Onza Full Fat and...errrrr...YAY!!!!!!!!! when I started doin spinny street tricks, my tyre was folding loads on a 521 and causing me many spills. I haven't had a tyre fold since using a wider rim. and I don't notice the extra weight, even since goi to a nice heavy comp 16!!! get one. yes 521s r brilliant, but DX32isms r just as good! tried and tested: FACT!!!!! smithy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 many say theyre better. hahaha, he's certainly modest, you've got to give him that :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovi Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 If you run a low pressure + a 2.5 tyre then you're going to have a lot of problems with a narrow rim :'( And about the weight , who actually felt a weight difference after changing a 521 with a wide rim? The advantages are clearly the ability to run a fat tyre with a low pressure without worries . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyscrumbles Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 im running a hope xc on bmf, deffinatly the way to go, Ā£117 from mark anthony cycles if ne1's interested, bt the xc'x I find tend to slip on the stupidest things like pedalling along or accelerating away slowly, bt mines probably got grit in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 ok, so either planet-x bmf onza full fat with cnc grind or echo rim??? or any other good wide rims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Just got a Koxx one through to build this morning and its not that bad. 650g (BMF = 800g) and its stiffer than a BMF too. No eyelets or welded join though :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 hmmmmmmmmm so many damn rims, cant they make just 1 and make it the best ever, be so much easier :thumbsup: but sounds like the koxx maybe a bit to weak for me or am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 truehalf trueas far as wide rims go, the bmf and koxx rims are the only choice really, everything else is just a bmf with or without holes, and with or without eyelets.thing is, none of them are really all that goodsure there pretty strong, but nowhere near as strong as a 521, and there so heavy cosndering tehy are weaker than a 521 which weighs about 150g less.so the best rim to go for is a 521and noits not too wide for ube honest? y do u want a wide rim?I dont, many people dont need them, loads of pro's run 521's, take jeff lenosky, chris akkrig used to on his pace, danny holroyd did before the px spnosorshipso the truth is u dont need a wide rim at all so wake upcome to ur senses ladget a 521 on hope xcby FAR the best budget wheel availableJust out of curiosity what rim do you have now prawn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Hope have started to make there own wheels called"hope hoopz" built by dt swiss they cum with pro2 hubs in either free ride or xc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe b Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Simon, get a Koxx rim. Seriously, they are better than everyone makes out. But, make sure you get an 06 version as they are far superior to the older versions (smaller holes, thicker sidewalls, and they hold grinds better, for some reason). Cheers,Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz M Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 ROFL look at the date joe you tw*t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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