JamieWilliams Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 I was just wondering could some one help me, I am getting a Onza ice in a few days and i am not sure if a monty 221 ti hub will fit what i mean will the axle size fit in the frame Thanks Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave! Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 (edited) Arn't the monty axels 110mm? But isnt that so you can run cams on the outside.But! Those ice frames have that other chain tensioner incorporated into the frame, so you may get away with it.If in dout ring supercycles or tartybikes? Edited April 4, 2009 by Dave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieWilliams Posted April 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Arn't the monty axels 110mm? But isnt that so you can run cams on the outside.But! Those ice frames have that other chain tensioner incorporated into the frame, so you may get away with it.If in dout ring supercycles or tartybikes?I dont mean the length i mean the width of the axle Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlet Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 The thickness of the axle should be fine.They are all give or take a few mm the same sort of size, if not then a little butchering is nothing to worry about.New frame again...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave! Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 I should think it would fit. the axel width are the same as any other arnt they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieWilliams Posted April 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 The thickness of the axle should be fine.They are all give or take a few mm the same sort of size, if not then a little butchering is nothing to worry about.New frame again...?Thanks mate and yes I have broke my zoo by snapping a taper tool in one of the 4 bolt mounts Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam F Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 I really wanna abuse you badly, but i can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Logan-Price Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) Thanks mate and yes I have broke my zoo by snapping a taper tool in one of the 4 bolt mounts Jamiealong with the 3 other frames you have broke this week yea ^ thats not even a joke Edited April 5, 2009 by Barbara Logan-Price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam F Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Really? How?Is he a spastic or somthing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Logan-Price Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Really? How?Is he a spastic or somthing..no comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam F Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Please explain, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Logan-Price Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Please explain, lol.i dunno his brother just told me he has stripped the threads in 3 frames this week LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam F Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Spastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris - Burman Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Spastic.love it sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieWilliams Posted April 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 i dunno his brother just told me he has stripped the threads in 3 frames this week LOLNO I have only broke my zoo i was riding a zhi after my zoo broke but a don't like it so i am riding a onza blade un till i get my onza ice Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) calm down kids. Back on topicJamie showed me what he means, looks like something is badly wrong or theres been a huge cockup... Theres a gap inbetween the axle and the dropout of his blade frame. I remember you had to use a certain chain tug which added width the axle, which meant it would sit correctly in the frame. But because the blade has integrated tensioners you cant fit these tugs. Im guessing Jamie wants to know if the ice runs the same tensioner device, in which case jamie, you're going to have to get an axle shim with an outerdiameter of 10mm, and an inner diamter of whatever your axle isEDIT: Actually looking at the pics on tarty, the rear hub for the frame is a 10mm axle, not fun bolts, Hence why there is a gap on the blade. I cant find pictures of the Onza Ice, but as its a higher end bike, Im guessing that will allow for fun bolts so you'll be alright Edited April 5, 2009 by PaRtZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Wood Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 another frame blimey!i hate this kid just because of this hahaBut yeah should be no problem with the axle thickness rign tarty just incase if your worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Powell Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) Not going to deniy it but i think your a spoilt bellend.With the amount of frames you've had you know its going to fit your just using it as an excuse to brag about getting a new frame. Edited April 5, 2009 by Connor Powell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Not going to deniy it but i think your a spoilt bellend.With the amount of frames you've had you know its going to fit your just using it as an excuse to brag about getting a new frame.verry harsh wording connor.....Although this kid has had more bikes/frames than i have women.....try not to be soooo Ummmmmmmm offensive.he is not braging about getting another frame.......he is genuinly worried about the hub frame set up.i know exactly what he meansJamie try not to bugger this one up.........make it last you a little while longer than the rest of your bikes/framesDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Czar Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) Surely you've got another wheel? You've had like 10 different bikes, you must have another wheelset lying about?Not going to deniy it but i think your a spoilt bellend.With the amount of frames you've had you know its going to fit your just using it as an excuse to brag about getting a new frame.+1 Edited April 6, 2009 by Julius Czar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam-pantera Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 i don't quite understand this , you have threaded 3 frames but you cant get these repaired or helicoiled ?tartybikes offer a service to re-tap and helicoil frames now and you could help out the economy by taking your frame to a engineer and let him fill the mount and re drill and tap it for you its a 30 min job but there might be a problem with your new frame and current hub as if you use 6mm of shims on the hub the amount of axel that sits in your frame will be reduced which will put more stress on your axel and frame . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Hold up, are you getting a new frame because you've 'broken' all your others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieWilliams Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Surely you've got another wheel? You've had like 10 different bikes, you must have another wheelset lying about?+1no because if you like at the bikes i have had the same monty 221 ti hub on all of themJamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieWilliams Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 This is what i mean this is a pic of my mates onza t mag Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Yes, it will. However, if it's a 221 Ti hub, the spacing will be 106mm, rather than the standard 110mm, you'll need some spacers to space it out to 110mm. Most mod dropouts are 116mm spaced, which allows for 3mm of snail cams each side with a 110mm hub, but because Monty are awkward they like to do things differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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