Dave Anscombe Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Ok so im just thinking......longer blade=more power= more stress on a frame.......Can they do frames damage??Dave x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 In theory, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 i know in theory that its poss they can do damage.,....i think the reason why my koxx xtp2 cracked is due to using a longer lever than whats supplied with the hs33.......ali/mikeshare your thoughts on this.......pro riders info is what im idealy after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Get a booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 J9s one did the same thing Dave, they reckoned it was because of the lever she was running.I don#t see the point in them, they make your brake spongier, and can crack your frame, and they just feel like a standard maggy blade on your finger? Give me a 07- Deng blade any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 your just too strong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Where did your XTP2 crack then Dave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Where did your XTP2 crack then Dave?Brake mounts at a guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Logan-Price Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 i know in theory that its poss they can do damage.,....i think the reason why my koxx xtp2 cracked is due to using a longer lever than whats supplied with the hs33.......ali/mikeshare your thoughts on this.......pro riders info is what im idealy afterThe reason it cracked is all in the brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Brake mounts at a guess? Shudduppppp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 The reason it cracked is all in the brand Seen J9's latest videos? Shes cracked hers 6 times, and she's smoother than most, certainly smoother than anyone I know who owns a Koxx and hasn't snapped it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Get a booster. i run a booster your just too strong! cant help that AND MUEL....im just after a more powerful brake to be honnest il just keep running my cnc magura lever then cheers for help peoples Edited April 2, 2009 by mrkoxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Having a longer leaver is not going to crack your frame because there's more push at the pads.Having a longer leaver is going to give you more power, but it'll accentuate the sponginess of the system. You'll also have to set your pads closer to the rim becuase of this. It's kind of a cheap, pointless way to make your brake better, really you should be looking into a better bleed, better pads, better breaking surface. Or maybe even a better brake if your not happy with whatever your using. I suggest a hope mono trial 203mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Having a longer leaver is not going to crack your frame because there's more push at the pads.Clearly it's putting more pressure into the pads, with the blade being about 30% longer, so the frame has all that extra force flexing the frame apart, and these frames clearly arn't up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 i run a booster Get a good booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 koxx xtp2That's your problem, right there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 New frame time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Decided on one yet Dave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Decided on one yet Dave?Zoo python 09..geo looks pretty dece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.No.If your spending that much, spend the extra £25 and get the XR20, they're lighter, nicer geometry and have a disc mount for when you see the light! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 lad i knows who has one .....crackd already so not a chance Dave x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 08 lite then and spend the rest on a disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlet Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Rankin run a Koxx XTP2 with the long magura lever blades, he had that bike for nearly a year and was fine on him (and he is a huge rider).The advantage I'd go for in a longer lever blade is ease of pulling the lever, so in a section it takes less effort to hold the brake on and reduced chances of cramp or arm pump.They can't make your brake better as there is only a terminal amount of force the brakes can give when braking, and therefore any extra force will be lost elsewhere (such as the frame or booster). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 They can't make your brake better as there is only a terminal amount of force the brakes can give when braking, and therefore any extra force will be lost elsewhere (such as the frame or booster).That is a VERY good point, if your frame is flexing because of your brakes then no matter how much force you put through it your frame is always going to suck that extra power out. Also a 30% longer lever means more flex on everything past that lever (in the braking system). Which is just "sponginess".Just get a better frame, or a mental booster. Probably already know and have made your mind up about that though ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Rankin run a Koxx XTP2 with the long magura lever blades, he had that bike for nearly a year and was fine on him (and he is a huge rider).The advantage I'd go for in a longer lever blade is ease of pulling the lever, so in a section it takes less effort to hold the brake on and reduced chances of cramp or arm pump.They can't make your brake better as there is only a terminal amount of force the brakes can give when braking, and therefore any extra force will be lost elsewhere (such as the frame or booster).Thus, cracking the frame. If the booster and frame are stiffer, more pressure gets get through the pads into the rim though, because rather than flexing the frame apart and the lever squishing to your finger, it transfers the extra pressure in the pad, deforming it more to the grind.That's my theory anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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